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accepted.
Editor’s Note: we will accept posts
on general issues involving upcoming election such as the need
for more animal control. But, because we can’t verify
them, we aren’t taking personal attacks or comments at
this point.
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Name:
Lord Hidetori
Email:
akira.net
Date:
07 May 2008
Oh where have all the beautiful ones gone.
The Bubba Bobs, the Pintos, the Als. All the great thinkers of
our age gone elsewhere in cyber-space, leaving me here alone
howling at the wind.
Has this site really died or is it just
technical problems?
LH
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Name:
Cory Henson
Email:
texasstyle@frontiernet.net
Date:
30 Apr 2008
If you are misssing any signs, the county
has been mowing on the cove road and other places. If they are
in the counties 10 foot right away, they have been picking them
up. You are able to pick them up at the yard behind the old
jail.
God Bless!
Massey For Sheriff!
www.masseyforsheriff.com
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Name:
proud voter
Email:
mick_street@hotmail.com
Date:
30 Apr 2008
I had A sign stolen off of my front yard
advertising for donnie craig for sheriff. I just want to
let everyone know that I am still voting for him even if you
steal my signs. I am new to the county and I am wondering
if that is how opposition trys to eliminate compition
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Name:
Marine
Email:
marine1
Date:
28 Apr 2008
pinto, perhaps if you would just read what
is written, you wouldn't go on one of your diatribes. Read
back, pinto. Read the whole paragraph you wrote concerning Nam.
Now maybe you'll understand that you didn't, "just make a
mistake" as you put it. You do that constantly in your
rantings. Just pay attention when you post and maybe, just
maybe so many in here would let up on you.
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Name:
Cory Henson
Email:
texasstyle@frontiernet.net
Date:
26 Apr 2008
Britt Massey for Sheriff!
www.masseyforsheriff.com
God Bless!
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Name:
Trevor
Email:
trevor@pickenschat.com
Date:
25 Apr 2008
I hate to be a contrarian Pinto, but
freedom of speech is probably healthier than it has ever been.
Freedom of action is certainly jeopardized. The Constitution is
mostly ignored.
But you have the freedom to say pretty much
whatever you want as long as you are not directly threatening
people with violence.
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Name:
pinto colvig
Email:
not@home
Date:
23 Apr 2008
whot the hell marine?! al misunderstands
your unclear rant and he gets thanked, I misunderstand and you
call me a idiot. anyway, at least I admit I made a mistake. and
you are right about nam. those dam peace lovers ruined it for
all of us. the limp-wristed politicians, for the last time in
american history, listened to the people, right or wrong. they
took the troops out of vietnam and, pissed off their bloody
agenda was foiled, redirected that aggression inside our own
borders. now we live in a police state where the freedom of
speech no longer exist.
hey what's the big deal about the dot
chairman and the dot comisioner having an affair? I thought the
whole purpose of the dot is for subordinates and people seeking
contracts to sleep with their superiors. Even today, chip
pearson, tom graves, and sonnny perdue all announced they too
have had romantic relationships with both the chairman and the
commmissioner, and with each other!
Mr. Grimes, you are crazy! We already live
in a fascist state! What could your candidacy possibly
accomplish that is not already established?
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Name:
bobhater
Email:
bubbabob@ellijay.com
Date:
23 Apr 2008
You sure it was a picture and not a mirror
and you were looking at your own image?
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Name:
Mitzi
Email:
mdrost1@msn.com
Date:
22 Apr 2008
Recently, there has been a problem with
rabid animals in the Hobson Creek area. While I do not
have any outdoor animals, it still scares me a little.
But what really bothers me the most is this....A week ago
this past Friday, I was on my way to work, and there was a dead
skunk in the road. On my way home, it was still there.
I get home to a notice posted on the front door warning
about the problems with rabid animals, and skunks were
mentioned. SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION WORKER WHO
POSTED THIS ON MY FRONT DOOR had to drive by the dead, possibly
rabid skunk, twice. And it stayed there until it finally
rotted away.
Don't you think they should have had it
cleaned up so the kids playing nearby, or the dogs in the
neighborhood wouldn't come into contact with it?
I then read the recent edition of the paper
where they staed that they encourage people to make sure thier
animals have had a rabies vaccine. It's a state law.
And how they had to put to sleep 2 dogs who came into
contact with a rabid animal.
Encourage pet owners? IT IS A LAW!!
Pick up all untagged animals and put them to sleep!!!
The owners didn't care enough to get the shots, so pick
the animal up!!! They obviously don't care about thier
animals anyway.
By the way, the owner of the two dogs had
gotten them 7 years ago from an animal rescue. Shame on
the rescue for giving the dogs to someone who didn't care about
them after all.
I did try and call the number on the flyer,
that had directions of what to do if you had to kill one of
these animals. You are supposed to call them. But
they are only open for 2 hours a day. Go figure....
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Name:
Jackson K. Grimes
Email:
jack_grimes6@hotmail.com
Date:
22 Apr 2008
Dear Editor: Since customers were cutting
back on the use of electricity by getting energy saving light
bulbs, etc., the electric companies were losing money.
Consequently, they invented multipliers, which are a
mathematical concept used to take advantage of the customer.
These multipliers are used at the option of electric companies,
so when customers aren't using enough to produce the desired
profit margin, they simply raise the multipliers, and get their
money. The multipliers are so high now even people who use
almost no electricity are saddled with a huge bill. Even worse,
the pubic utilities' commissions have been no help whatsoever.
We might point out in Fascist nations utilities are provided at
cost or given freely, as they're PUBLIC.The United Fascist
Union proposes electric companies'monopolies be broken, and
public companies be created that would charge the public for
the electric they actually use; instead of letting some
fat-belly private profiteers' live the high life at the
public's expense.The U. F. U.would revamp the system and make
sure the Public Service Commissions of various Provinces work
in public interest instead of working crooked deals with
Executives of monopolies allowing them to exploit consumers.
Vote Fascist 2008!
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Name:
Donnie Craig
Email:
donnie@craigforsheriff.com
Date:
21 Apr 2008
My name is Donnie Craig and I am a
Republican canidate for sheriff. I have lived in Pickens County
for over 30 years and have been married to my wife Tina for 16
years. Tina and I have two children, Tyler who is 13 and Ashley
who is 8. We are both members of Talking Rock First Baptist
Church.
I began my law enforcement career in
January of 1992 with the Pickens County Sheriff’s Office.
After being hired as a Detention Officer, I worked my way up
through the ranks of the department until I was appointed Chief
Deputy. As Chief Deputy, I was directly responsible for the
daily operations of the Sheriff’s Office, developing and
managing the budget and overall supervision of the Uniform
Patrol, Criminal Investigations, Court Services, and the Adult
Detention Center.
Following my service with the
Sheriff’s Office, I moved into the business field in 2003
starting Affordable Storage and purchasing Burgess Service
Station which would allow me to provide for my family while
actively pursuing the office of Sheriff.
Now, I would like to combine my business
and law enforcement experiences to bring a fresh, new approach
to the Sheriff’s Office.
As you may know, in the last 15 years, our
county has experienced a tremendous amount of change and
growth. Our population has jumped from fifteen thousand to an
estimated thirty thousand. We have seen this positive change in
almost every aspect of the county-with one exception; The
Pickens County Sheriff’s Office.
Sure, there have seen some changes with the
sheriff’s office over the last fifteen years. For
example, the Sheriff’s Department budget has increased
from less than 1 million dollars to over 4.6 million dollars;
the number of employees has increased from around 20 employees
to over 80, the uniform patrol officers has increased from 2
officers to 3 and sometimes 4 per shift, while the number of
officers assigned to work drug enforcement in our county has
been cut from 2 officers to just one. In contrast, the
administrative staffing has increased from around 3 to nearly
20 employees. As Sheriff, I will increase the number of
working road officers to six officers per shift and reduce
excessive “administrative” positions within the
Sheriff’s Office!
The current administration has been doing
things the same way for far too long. As uncomfortable as
change may be, times have changed and these times present new
challenges and threats to our community.
For example, in the last few years, we have
seen an explosion in the use of methamphetamine in our county.
It is like a fast spreading cancer that is eating us up from
the inside out. Our county law enforcement has been too slow to
respond. This bothers me not only as a citizen, but also as a
parent.
This is just one way the current
administration has lost touch with the things that are
important to our community. I believe they have lost the
respect that comes with an office that serves the people. I
intend to restore that respect through service and dedication,
and I will not forget the people I serve nor take for granted
my office!
That’s why I am calling my platform
“Determined to make a Difference.” I am Determined
and with your support, together we can make a Difference in our
community, but I need your help.
First of all, I will restore the
taxpayers’ confidence in the Sheriff’s Office.
Without an investment from taxpayers there is no
Sheriff’s Office. I have reviewed the budget and
expenditures over the last few years and have seen a tremendous
amount of wasteful spending. We will direct our resources to
serve the people of Pickens County and not just the department.
I plan to create a department based on merit, ability, and
performance. Not based on establishment, association, or
relation. Under my plan, each and every employee will have
earned his or her position based on job performance and not
based on privilege!
Second, as our community is facing a modern
day drug epidemic, we must take immediate action to combat this
problem and protect our community. Under our current
administration, we are part of a tri-county drug task force
with only one officer assigned to work drug enforcement in
Pickens County. This is unacceptable. We will create a special
unit within the department whose sole responsibility is to
aggressively crack down on the producers, distributors, and
users of illegal drugs. I don’t think anyone could have
kept Pickens County absolutely “Drug Free”, but
there has definitely been an atmosphere where these drugs have
been able to flourish. I plan to change this through education,
enforcement, and investment. We will fight the war on
drugs and we will win!
Third, over the last few years I have
listened to the many complaints regarding the animal control
issues. It seems that we all see that there has been a problem
but no one is willing to accept the responsibility. As your
sheriff I will accept this responsibility. In 2009 I will
assign two full time officers to an animal control unit.
Finally, we will reinstate the inmate work
detail program and continue this program throughout my term as
Sheriff. This program will consist of inmates who have been
convicted of non-violent offences. These inmates will clean up
the litter and illegal dumping from our public roadways. They
will also provide labor for publicly funded and non-profit
organizations within the county. We need to send a strong
message to those that break the law---you will serve your time
and you will serve the residents of Pickens County.
As your Sheriff, I will bring these changes
we need in 2009 by reorganizing our department and not
increasing the budgets or raising our taxes. Drawing on my
years of experience in law enforcement and business will allow
me to hit the ground running as soon as elected. If you
elect me as your next Sheriff, I assure you that you will see
positive improvement in our Sheriff’s Department and a
“hard –line” approach to drug enforcement in
Pickens County.
I want to encourage you to go to my website
at www.craigforsheriff.com and find out more about our campaign
and what we stand for. You may also reach me on my cell number
at 678-232-9784.
I ask each of you for your support and
prayers as we push forward with this election.
Thank you and God Bless.
Donald E. Craig
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Name:
Marine
Email:
marine1
Date:
17 Apr 2008
Thanks Al. He's always amazing me. He'll
find an article and write it in here word for word. Then he'll
swear it's gospel.
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Name:
Bob Hayles
Email:
bubbabob@ellijay.com
Date:
17 Apr 2008
Pinto, with all the talk regarding words
and their spelling and meanings, I got out the dictionery and
looked up "stupid"...
I'll be damned...there wasn't a word
definitopn there, but they used a picture of you instead.
Bob Hayles
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Name:
Marine
Email:
marine1
Date:
16 Apr 2008
pinto, you are a bonified idiot. If you see
the word 'paradise' anywhere in my writings while referring to
Nam, I'll send you $1000.00. Now be a good boy and look up the
word 'parity". Just remember, all you have to do is locate
the word paradise. If you don't, however, all you have to do is
stop seeking wisdom and muzzle yourself. Bob, you are right.
It's not worth the waste of breath to try and reach a 'scared
one'.
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Name:
Al
Email:
arothejr@etcmail.com
Date:
16 Apr 2008
pinto, what a goof! It is quite plain
to see that the word that Marine misspelled was
"parodies", the plural of "parody".
What a beautiful waste of an obnoxious personal attack!
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Name:
pinto colvig
Email:
not@home
Date:
16 Apr 2008
marine, did you call vietnam
"paradise" (but you spelled it incorrectly)? well
that gives us some insite into the state of your mental health
and therefor your credibility. here's a tip for you - that's
not paradise, it's probably a big piece of shrapnel lodged in
your frontal lobe from one of those angelic viet cong who
double crossed you with a grenade or suicide bomb set off in
your vicinity, probably sometime around the 1970s, in what you
now longingly refer to as paradise. Or you can always go back
to Vietnam if you want, I'm sure theres someone over trhere who
would fight you.
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Name:
me
Email:
athome.com
Date:
15 Apr 2008
This paper needs to revamp itself.
With the election of presidents and our local sheriffs,
why cant the wonderful reporters who went to college report on
anything more important than the nonsense? Do an
interview with each of the candidates for our offices.
Ask them all the same questions, at different places so
that WE THE VOTERS can make our own decisions, not the backward
ideas of the local folks who seem to be fixed in the 40's and
50's around here. It puzzles me that some cannot come
into this current time and date.
[Editor’s Note: We will most
certainly provide plenty of election coverage. Please keep in
mind that while the political signs are up, the primary
election is not until July 15. And we usually have plenty of
question and answer with all the candidates the weeks before
the vote. Also you might note that official qualifying
isn’t until April 28 through May 2, so the races are far
from set at this point.]
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Name:
Lori Roper
Email:
ropergang@tds.net
Date:
14 Apr 2008
found bassett hound . Yellow creek area.
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Name:
lord hidetori
Email:
feudaldomain@bitchcreek.org
Date:
14 Apr 2008
More than 4,000 American troops have been
killed in Iraq. Thousands more lives have been ruined. Tens of
thousands of Iraqis civilians have been killed and wounded
without the benefit of medical care. The surge may have
quelled the violence momentarily but American bombers had
to be called in to put down the Shi'ites in Basra -- Shi'ites
who were resisting a Shi'ite-led government. In Baghdad,
residents were fleeing with as many personal belongings as they
could carry because of the violence. The Green Zone has been
under attack. After five years I would not call that much
progress.
Furthermore, the four-star general who used
to command the 101st Airborne testified before congress earlier
this month that there is no way they can support present troop
levels. He said the U.S. Army has already lowered their
recruitment qualifications and will now take former convicts.
Rather than comparisons to Nam, how about
comparison to the U.S. war against guerillas in the Phillipines
not long after the turn of the last century where no one
even questioned the use of early waterboarding by our troops
and there weren't protests at all and we still came home
without accomplishing anything. Or the British (I think 1800s)
adventure in what was thenArabia,which lasted 80 years before
they finally said these people don't want to be part of the
empire and left without accomplishing anything. Are we going to
be there 80 years?
LH
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Name:
Bob Hayles
Email:
bubbabob@ellijay.com
Date:
11 Apr 2008
Marine, you are wasting your breath...Pinto
is allergic to truth and logic.
ANYONE who pays attention to history knows
that the Nam war was lost not by troops on the ground but by
Washington's elite, who stuck their finger in the air to see
which way the wind was blowing before making any decision.
Someday, maybe, the decisions on war will
be made correctly by this country again. Politicians and
policy makers make the decision whether or not to go to war,
then they shut up. Policy makers expertise is if war is
justified, but once the decision is made to do it, let the
folks whose expertise is HOW to wage war make those
decisions...the military.
Had that been done Nam would have turned
out differently, and Iraq would have been over a while ago.
Bob Hayles
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Name:
Debbie Hall
Email:
oreocat13@mchsi.com
Date:
11 Apr 2008
Mr. R. I agree with your
observation's 100%. Although I have absolutely nothing
against Latino people. They are just trying to take care
of their family's. That question should be posed to Mr.Bush.
I notice if he doesn't like something that congress wants
or its something he doesn't agree with he knows how to use that
Veto pen. It's like having a house with a bunch of unruly
children. And the person in charge is only concentrating on one
particular problem. And just letting the unruly children keep
on being unruly. I mean I seldom see Mr.Bush on TV unless its
concerning the war in IRAQ. And another thing have you ever
pondered that how could Mr.Bush say or do anything very severe
concerning the influx of immigrants. Do you really think Mrs.
Jeb Bush and her children. The grandchildren of the President
G.Bush Senior. would think very highly of that. Since
they Mr. Bush's own blood kin are Latino? I have. Sincerely,
Debbie
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Name:
pinto colvig
Email:
not@home
Date:
10 Apr 2008
Amazing how you can still get it wrong
(probly on purpose) even after you have obviously researched
the facts. the john yoo memo was not "immediately"
rejected. it was rejected nine months after it became the u.s.
official guidelines on torture, and it took even longer than
that for the dept of defense to acknowledge this rejection. so
the yoo memo was the legal justificaion tat "allowed"
the u.s. to torure people in the first place. and you're
missing the point -- the memo supports a pattern of the bush
and his advisors believing they are above the law. it was only
when some left wing looney came in at dept of justice that they
were told otherwise. now we have to send prisoners to our
dictator friends if we want them to be tortured.
the signing statements show the same
pattern, except those haven't been rejected. al, you are
arguing semantics and minute details that do not deny the
anti-American way the bush operates.
and where in the un resolution does it say
the u.s. or anybody had the right to occupy the country, change
its laws, disregard the security of the people, and shirk its
responsibility to rebuild what they destroyed? congradulations,
you just quoted the document that proves the war was illegal.
apparently I don't communicate very well with fence post, so
this may be my last post on the Iraq war. So I will say right
now that I reject any future personal attack against me by al
or anybody else prompted only by their inability to admit that
I am right.
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Name:
Marine
Email:
marine1
Date:
10 Apr 2008
pinto, what's amazing is your failure to
see paradies. If you knew anything about the Nam war and if
history has taught you anything, you'd know that it was the
'peace mongers' that lost that war for us. There was so much
protest by the scared ones that we were all pulled out. Shortly
after that there were 1.24 million people slaughtered and the
entire country was reinhabited by the north. We NEVER lost a
battle in Nam, but we lost the war due to the pressure of the
'scared ones'. The same white flag waving is going on now by
the scared ones. Surrender was never an option for this great
country of ours and that's why we remain free. The only
difference today is the vast population of the spineless who
don't want to serve their country, but protest the very reason
they remain free to do so. Without replacement troops multiple
tours are mandatory, just like Nam. During Nam, the longhaired
cowards ran to Canada, hence dissallowing replacement
troops...Now get what Nam & Iraq have in common?? While
you're at it, you might want to get that inner ear checked out.
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Name:
Roman Adams
Email:
Outdoorpawn@aol.com
Date:
09 Apr 2008
You think the war in Iraq is costing
us too much? Read this:
Boy am I confused. I have been hammered
with the propaganda that it is the Iraq war and the war on
terror that is bankrupting us.
I hope the following 14 reasons are
forwarded over and over again until they are read so many
times that the reader gets sick of reading
them. I have included the URL's for verification of all the
following facts.
1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on
welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77
2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on
food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free
school lunches for illegal aliens.
http:
//www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on
Medicaid for illegal aliens.
http:
//www.cis.org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html
4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on
primary and secondary school education for children here
illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http:
//transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html
5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for
education for the American-born children of illegal aliens,
known as anchor babies.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604
/01/ldt.01.html
6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to
incarcerate illegal aliens.
http:
//transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison
inmates are illegal aliens.
http:
//transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on
illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the
American taxpayers.
http:
//premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html
9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in
suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens.
http:
//transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html
10. The illegal aliens in the United States
have a crime rate that'stwo and a half times that of white
non-illegal aliens. In particular,their children, are going to
make a hug e additional crime problem in the US
http:
//transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html
11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to
10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border
also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist
Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin
and marijuana, crossed into the U. S from the Southern border.
Homeland Security Report: http:
//tinyurl.com/t9sht
12. The National Policy Institute,
'estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be
between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41
and $46 billion annually over a five year period.'
http:
//www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf
13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45
BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http:
//www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm
14. 'The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration:
Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants
In The United States '.
http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml
The total cost is a whopping $ 338.3
BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
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Name:
Roman Adams
Email:
Outdoorpawn@aol.com
Date:
09 Apr 2008
“It reminds me of the story about
that little boy, have you ever heard this story where you know,
a man walks by the barn and sees this little boy in this room
filled with manure," she reiterates. "And he's
standing there and he's digging, and he's digging, and he's
digging. And the man says, 'Son, what are you doing up to your
hips in manure with that little shovel?' The boys says, 'Well,
with this much manure around there's got to be a pony -- and
I'm going to find it.'"
Ironically, the story Clinton recounted was
made famous by former Republican President Ronald Reagan
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Name:
debbie hall
Email:
oreocat13@mchsi.com
Date:
09 Apr 2008
To Mr.Al,
I agree with you. About Mr. McCain.
In my book he's a stand up guy in that respect. He
and his children are will to give the ultimate sacrifice in
behalf of this country. All I am saying is if "ANY"
person wants to run for president. That should be one of
the requirements for the job. But in my opinion Mr. McCain is
to far out of touch with the common man. And about the
WAR in Iraq. My view as a AMERICAN and a citizen of these
great United States of America. We have done all we can AFFORD
to for that country.
We need to pull our people out. We
need to try to negotiate with other countries who are our
allies. To continue to keep a eye on that part of the
world. But the job is extremely to much for just the USA
to take the total burden in life and financial reasons.
You can not help build up other countries and take care
of other country's people and let your own house America go
down and become weak financially and not extremely strong at
home with limited troops across the world. Every day is a gift.
And letting our country become weakened. To build up Iraq. In
my view is asking for a terrorist attack. Yes, we are safe up
to this point. But do people really think. That its not going
to happen again? We first must build up our country at
home and have a extremely mighty force at HOME FIRST! Not
let our country get run down and drained of resources. To prove
a political point. That is foolish. And that's my opinion. So
people don't email mean thoughts about my view I am entitled to
it. It's called Freedom Of Speech and that is my right and
your's. Sincerely, Debbie Hall
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Name:
Pete Campbell
Email:
petecampministries@suddenlink.net
Date:
09 Apr 2008
Greetings from Texas. I am trying to
contact my aunt, Barbara Bowden of Bent Tree (?) Jasper. My
uncle was Chesley Lee Bowden who passed away in Feb. 2007 there
in Jasper. I just found his obituary today. My cousin also
lives there in Jasper. Her name is Cindy Gentry. I would really
appreciate it, if someone knows them, if my e-mail address
could be passed along to them:
petecampministries@suddenlink.net
Thanks to the good citizens of Jasper.
Pete Campbell
Midland, Texas
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Name:
pinto colvig
Email:
not@home
Date:
09 Apr 2008
uh...marine, that is right. Unbelieveable
as you say it is, that is EXACTLY what the bush did in
Afghanistan. And by the way, what in the HELL does ANY of this
have to do with Vietnam?
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Name:
Al
Email:
arothejr@etcmail.com
Date:
09 Apr 2008
Lord Hidetori, everyone is entitled to an
opinion and there is certainly evidence to support your opinion
that the Iraq war was poorly planned. However, I believe
General Petraeus when he says things are much better since the
troop surge. Even the left-wingers are having to admit it.
In my opinion, there is still a chance for success in
Iraq and it is way to early to abandon our efforts.
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Name:
Al
Email:
arothejr@etcmail.com
Date:
09 Apr 2008
Pinto, this is from the Congressional
Research Service:” President Clinton’s conception
of presidential power proved to be largely consonant with that
of the preceding two administrations. In turn, President
Clinton made aggressive use of the signing statement, issuing
381 statements, 70 (18%) of which raised constitutional or
legal objections. President George W. Bush has continued
this practice issuing 152 signing statements, 118 of which
(78%) contain some type of challenge or objection.”
So, what you say is simply not true, they all did it,
they all challenged; Clinton 70, Bush 118! Again, Bush
Haters grasping at straws.
Opening paragraphs to UN resolution 1441:
“Recalling all its previous relevant resolutions, in
particular its resolutions 661 (1990) of 6 August 1990, 678
(1990) of 29 November 1990, 686 (1991) of 2 March 1991, 687
(1991) of 3 April 1991, 688 (1991) of 5 April 1991, 707 (1991)
of 15 August 1991, 715 (1991) of 11 October 1991, 986 (1995) of
14 April 1995, and 1284 (1999) of 17 December 1999, and all the
relevant statements of its President,
“Recalling also
its resolution 1382 (2001) of 29 November 2001 and its
intention to implement it fully,
“Recognizing the
threat Iraq's non-compliance with Council resolutions and
proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and long-range
missiles poses to international peace and security,”
Russia voted for this resolution, Germany is not on the
Security Council.
As for John Yoo; his memo was immediately
challenged and retracted by Jack Goldsmith, the chief of the
Office of Legal Counsel in the Department of Justice.
Just another red herring from the left; torture has NEVER
been authorized by this administration.
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Name:
Marine
Email:
marine1
Date:
09 Apr 2008
Amazing! It's so easy to armchair saying
liar, liar. I suppose Bush also knew that the plot originated
in Afghanistan but just decided to stay there part time then
head the troops to Iraq. Unbelievable. What ever Bush did, was
right. We're still here,(unharmed), by coincidence. 11 attacks
thwarted because we did the wrong thing I guess. Maybe we
should have tried to 'talk' with these rapists and murderers.
We could have reasoned with them. How weak and lame would that
be?? Wake up!
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Name:
Lord Hidetori
Email:
feudaldomain@bitchcreek.com
Date:
09 Apr 2008
You can try to spin however you want, but
the war in Iraq was poorly planned and is not going well.
LH
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Name:
Al
Email:
arothejr@etcmail.com
Date:
07 Apr 2008
Great post Roman, thanks.
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Name:
pinto colvig
Email:
not@home
Date:
07 Apr 2008
That's true about the signing statements,
but bill clinton's signing statements said things like
"this is a good law" and "I hope it is fully
enforced." the bush's signing statements, all of them, say
that any part of the bill is unconstitutional that impinges on
the "unitary executive," a concept that the Magna
Carta defined as a tyrannical instrument that is invalid in a
free society. this shows two things -- one, the bush thinks he
is above the law and two, he is too cowardly and lacking in
principles to just veto the dang bill if he thinks its
unconstitutional. thats what all the previous presidents did.
Type in the name john yoo in google news and you will see the
most recently leaked memo of the bush justice department that
advised that torture is perfectly okay. bush doesn't know
anything, but to think all this went on without cheney knwoing
about it? you need to come back down to mars. again, look at
all the leaked intel reports prior to the war, stating clearly
that the reasons the bush and others gave for the invasion were
wrong, and they knew it, and thus they were llying. "all
other countries believed in wmd" is an old talking point
that even cheney doesn't use anymore. it is completely false,
as the Russians and Germans have come forward saying they tried
to tell the bush there no wmd, and all those "other
countries" were relying on the false and hand-sellected
intel provided by the white house. the democrats suck too, I
never said they had a clue. but the bush was the one leading
the advertising campaign. al, I have read the un and
congressional resolutions. Have you?
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Name:
Marine
Email:
marine1
Date:
07 Apr 2008
Roman, thank you!
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Name:
Roman Adams
Email:
Outdoorpawn@aol.com
Date:
07 Apr 2008
This is the kind of news we get from
individual service people who have served in Iraq, but not in
our everyday news suppliers. Why!
Did you know?
I didn't know!
How could we?
Did you know that 47 countries' have
reestablished their embassies in Iraq ?
Did you know that the Iraqi government
currently employs 1.2 million Iraqi people?
Did you know
that 3100 schools have been renovated,
364 schools are under rehabilitation,
263 new schools are now under construction;
and 38 new schools have been completed in
Iraq ?
Did you know
that Iraq 's higher educational structure
consists
of 20 Universities, 46 Institutes or
colleges and 4 research
centers, all currently operating?
Did you know
that 25 Iraq students depart ed for the
United States in
January 2005 for the re-established
Fulbright program?
Did you know
that the Iraqi Navy is operational?
They have 5 - 100-foot patrol craft,
34 smaller vessels and a naval infantry
regiment.
Did you know
that Iraq ' s Air Force consists of three
operational
squadrons,
Which includes 9 reconnaissance and 3 US
C-130 transport
aircraft (under Iraqi operational control)
which operate day and
night, and will soon add 16 UH-1
helicopters and 4 Bell Jet Rangers?
Did you know
that Iraq has a counter-terrorist unit and
a Commando
Battalion?
Did you know
that the Iraqi Police Service has over 55,0
00
fully trained and equipped police officers?
Did you know
that there are 5 Police Academies in Iraq
that produce over 3500 new officers every 8
weeks?
Did you know
there are more than 1100 building projects
going on in Iraq ?
They include 364 schools, 67 public
clinics, 15 hospitals,
83 railroad stations, 22 oil facilities, 93
water facilities
and 69 electrical facilities.
Did you know
that 96% of Iraqi children under the age of
5
have received the first 2 series of polio
vaccinations?
Did you know
that 4.3 million Iraqi children were
enrolled in primary
school by mid October?
Did you know
that there are 1,192,00 0 cell phone
subscribers in Iraq
and phone use has gone up 158%?
Did you know
that Iraq has an independent media that
consists of
75 radio stations, 180 newspapers and 10
television stations?
Did you know
that the Baghdad Stock Exchange opened in
June of 2004?
Did you know
that 2 candidates in the Iraqi presidential
election had a
televised debate recently?
OF COURSE WE DIDN'T KNOW!
WHY DIDN'T WE KNOW?
BECAUSE OUR MEDIA WON'T TELL US!
Instead of reflecting our love for our
country,
we get photos of flag burning incidents at
Abu Ghraib
and people throwing snowballs at the
presidential motorcades.
Tragically, the lack of accentuating the
positive
in Iraq serves two purposes:
It is intended to undermine the world's
perception
of the United States thus minimizing
consequent support;
and it is intended to discourage American
citizens.
Above facts are verifiable on the
Department of Defense web
site:
http://www.defenselink.mil/
Did you know?
I didn't know
But I know now.....
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Name:
Marine
Email:
marine1
Date:
07 Apr 2008
While I agree that the 'reasons' for the
war were distorted, I have to say that I have no lost memory of
the attacks we suffered in our homeland. Wherever our troops
went to war however, the enemy gathered. Whether it was Iraq,
Afghanistan, Syria, etc., etc..These enemies celebrated 9/11. 8
out of 10 troops in Iraq believe we should be there. How do you
account for that? Are they all misled? Numerous attacks on ours
and allies soil have been thwarted by this administration.Even
the Dem's believed that Sadaam had w.m.d.'s. Clinton bombed
Iraq as well. It's so easy to armchair this very volital
situation. Trust me, I spent a long time in that jungle called
Nam and waterboarding should have been the least of their
worries. The very reason we NEVER lost a battle in Nam was due
to the info given by the Viet Cong. The very reason for the
troup surge by this administration was due to the lack of
replacement troups in Nam. Those were the sissys that ran to
Canada to avoid fighting for this country.They called it
'protesting a war' while all it was, was fear. We couldn't get
replacements because of those chickens. I can only imagine
having the honor of meeting John McCain who actually turned
down an offer to be released 3 years early because his Dad was
an Admiral. He did this because he wanted to stay with his
troups in captivity. This nation needs a hero. One who excell
in character and keep this nation safe. Not some 'on the job
trainee' with great speaking skills, or one who cries when the
going gets tough. Wake up people and massage that memory and
lets not forget our losses.
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Name:
Al
Email:
arothejr@etcmail.com
Date:
07 Apr 2008
Debbie, John McCain is a strong supporter
of the war in Iraq, his youngest son is a Marine serving in
Iraq, his oldest son is a Cadet at the Naval Academy;
let’s hope the war is over before he graduates in 3
years. I guess that makes John McCain the only candidate
qualified to be President!
Pinto, were did you find that info on Bush
and Cheney deciding to torture prisoners. You should turn
that over to Congress so they can start the impeachment
process! Please, you know Bush and Cheney NEVER made any
such decision. President James Monroe was the first
President to use "signing statements" and Bush has
not used “thousands”! BTW, Bill Clinton
issued just as many "signing statements" as Bush!
No right wing conspiracy to usurp the Constitution just a
President doing what most all Presidnets have done. Bush haters
are getting desperate for ammuniton!
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Name:
Al
Email:
arothejr@etcmail.com
Date:
07 Apr 2008
Pinto, The Center for Public Integrity is a
George Soros funded organization. There is nothing new in their
“935 lies” report. The only thing that stands out
in this report is the fact that the focus is strictly on Bush.
Perhaps that is why it is being ignored by the main stream
media. It doesn’t even seem to be generating much
interest on left-wing sites like moveon.org. It really is
old and distorted stuff. I can go and find quotes of the
same “lies” in UN resolutions and in statements
from leading Democrats during the same period. You and
everyone else on the plant knows that most of the intelligence
agencies in the world as well as most Democrat Party leaders
believed that there were wmd’s in Iraq. That is why
Congress passed a joint resolution and that is what the UN
passed many resolutions. ! Have you actually read
the joint resolution and the reasons for going to Iraq?
It is fair to say that mistakes were made.
In any military campaign, there are always folks who
caution about the possibility of failure! Go and read
about the lead up to D-Day; there were many who said it
would fail, and it almost did. Eisenhower charged ahead
and helped hasten the end to WWII in the process. Had he
failed, history would have treated him badly. This
military stuff is not for the faint of heart or for the
indecisive. Progress IS being made in Iraq on both the military
and political fronts. History will be the final judge for
George Bush, not you.
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Name:
pinto colvig
Email:
not@home
Date:
06 Apr 2008
actually, now that I think about it (now
that I'm not drunk like buttbob) the bush whole presidency has
done nothing but shot the bird at checks and balances, just
like buttbob -- thats bob hales -- did to his neighbor (the
only difference being that buttbob got punished for it). this
is shown by the fact that the bush and cheney decided to
torture prisoners, in violation of u.s. and international law,
without telling the other branches of govt. also, don't forget
the thousands of times the bush has added "signing
statements" to the congressional bills he has signed,
basically saying that none of this BS applies to him, and he
can strike down any part of the bill he wants to at any time if
he doesn't agree with.
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Name:
Trevor
Email:
trevor@pickenschat.com
Date:
05 Apr 2008
Bob,
Give me a break! I take aspirin too. That's
self-medicating. Doesn't mean I need to go to a meeting. Not
everyone who drinks alcohol is an alcoholic. You should run for
judge, Bob, because you've done a damn fine job of judging me
without even knowing who I am.
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Name:
Debbie Hall
Email:
oreocat13@mchsi.com
Date:
04 Apr 2008
Not that anyone care's what I think. But I
just had to comment on Mr. Larry Starr's comment on President
George Bush. I feel exactly the same way you do Mr. Starr
about this terrible war. The whole thing is an abortion.
A lot of Death and nothing good about the operation. And
if anyone has anything to say about the brave young men and
women from this GENERATION. They are the most courageous,
honorable young people and I very much look up to their
sacrifices. They are doing and volunteering what our
country asks of them. Any government official who is not
willing to send their own children into battle. Should
not be allowed to even serve in the position of leaders who
make those kind of decisions. That should be a requirement of
the job. Then we would get I believe. A lot more deep
thinking before sending these magnificent young warriors into
battle to shed their precious blood for our country. The
United States of America. My thoughts. Debbie Hall
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Name:
pinto colvig
Email:
not@home
Date:
04 Apr 2008
the national media leans far right when it
comes to the Iraq war. this is why you haven't heard about a
recent report documenting "935 lies" told by Bush and
seven of his top officials in the leadup to the Iraq war, or
the many intelligence and pentagon reports provided to the
president before the war telling him that there really are no
wmd in Iraq, no al qaeda, and that the war really would last a
lot longer and be a lot messier than we were told. one of these
secret reports by the Pentagon that has now been leaked
cautiouned that chaos would ensue and last a long time after
the American invasion. who is saying there is no progress in
Iraq? well the people who live there are among those experts,
whose voices are not brodcast on the nightly news. even gen
petraus said last month there is not much progress. the war is
illegal because the mission went far beyond what was granted in
the un and congressional resolutions. shame on anyone who
dislikes being lied to.
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Name:
Bob Hayles
Email:
bubbabob@ellijay.com
Date:
03 Apr 2008
LH...this country is not a democracy, or a
representative democracy as you term it. It is a
democratic republic, and there is a big difference. A
democracy is two wolves and one sheep voting on what's for
dinner...essentially mob rule.
The founding fathers never intended this
country to be a democracy. Hell, the word
"democracy" isn't even in the constitution, the bill
of rights, or the declaration of independance.
Bob Hayles
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Name:
Hilarity
Email:
YoureKidding@Hilarity.om
Date:
03 Apr 2008
You are so right, Lord - why should only
the smart kids get those academic honor awards? And why
should only the star athletes get those athletic awards and
scholarships? And why should only the good citizen kids get
those citizenship awards? Dang it! We must change the
system!!!!
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Name:
Email:
etc.mail
Date:
03 Apr 2008
Ok, about Wal Mart. HURRY AND BUILD
IT! Second, they dropped that suit. Yes, it was
unfair, but if Target and Khols were as big as Wal-Mart, you'd
hear about them in the news as well. So cross all your
T's and dot all your I's before you post. My child
doesn't get academic awards and is an honor roll student.
We have no connections to teachers or staff. Not
even a solo in Chorus or band, it's the same old same old.
Just face it since the dawn of time some kids are the
teacher's pets. And for the government, see if you can do
a better job. I do not think we need a big court house,
nor do I think the one that is there is decent. But 17 million
can go toward much more than just a court house. Not like
we are Cobb and need the Taj Mahal put in. Spend some
money getting our kids in shape, create better programs in the
rec department and get people who actually know how to coach,
put on an extra sherrif to cover this large area. Lots
more that can be done!
Get your heads out of the clouds in this
county. Come into the current century and let things
happen that can HELP our area, your old' fashioned attitudes
are hurting the people here, not helping.