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Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/2/2009 5:04:04 PM
Message:
Hello, no-name. Thanks for the post on climate change. Your opinion is noted for the record. Know this, however. Since you have ignored all of the research on climate change and have chosen to agree with Al Gore and the rest of the alarmists, it is impossible to address you intellectually. You will just have to weep as the temperatures get warmer and colder as the atmosphere exchanges carbon and hope to yourself that humans all die out so that the animals can live without fear.
Best of luck to you.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/2/2009 4:59:10 PM
Message:
Old gerd, you just don't seem to get it. This is a "public" message board, but exists at behest of the Pickens Progress. The editors reserve the right to omit or delete whatever is posted here that violates their rules of posting, or is reasonably considered as sensitive, I assume, up to illegal in nature.
Find out all you want about me in the privacy of your home. Print pictures of me and dress up in your wife's clothes and plant lipstick coated kisses on my mug all day long. I don't care. But in this forum, it's none of your damn business. Get over me, I'm married.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 11/2/2009 4:58:50 PM
Message:
Jeep: Obama's approval rating reflects the mess he has us in in this country. If the liberals defended him and his tax/spend then nothing has changed I guess.
Tuesday is the start of dumping the Liberals and the Tax/
Spend socialism.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 11/2/2009 4:54:01 PM
Message:
3.5% GDP boost is like getting a cash advance on your credit card then trying to make people think you struck it rich. Anyone who listens to the GDP "good news" needs to take some basic accounting classes....
Name:
Email:
Date: 11/2/2009 4:14:32 PM
Message:
Here is another article about "global warming" that seems to indicate the local yokel "climatologists and Health Care reform proposal experts" posting on the message board have about as much a clue about this issue as they do about the Health Care Reform Proposals.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/11/02/kilimanjaro.glaciers/index.html
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/2/2009 2:24:14 PM
Message:
Chuck, your claim that you knew all along that Kool-Ade, as referred to here is based on Jim Jones is laughable. Let me remind you of your words,
"obvious racist attitudes by many of you fruit loops. Repeated statements in reference to Kool-Aid drinkers is an obvious racist slur so don't even attempt to say it is NOT your primary reasoning to oppose anything and everything the current administration is attempting. The only reason any person would use the terminology kool-aid drinker and it not be a racist slur is if your talking about kids. You are not talking about kids though are you, you fools."
What a sweet fellow. But wrong. Obviously you thought we were pretending to be talking about "kids", and not Jim Jones as you frantically tried to cover your butt and salvage your dignity in your follow up post.
And I will end with the fact that it is our right to point out the failures of this radical-backed administration. That much, sadly for you, you will have to endure for another 3 years. Just wait until health care and cap and trade come to the floor. Better get your ugly Alinskian race-baiting quips ready now because it will only intensify.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 11/2/2009 2:01:14 PM
Message:
Obama's approval rating is below the average of all US presidents since WWII. It's even below George W's approval rating at the same point in his presidency. Wonder how the liberals are going to explain this.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 11/2/2009 12:47:29 PM
Message:
Old Guard...It's pretty creepy how obsessed you and Chooch are with Rob.Paying for information on someone just because they have oppossing political views as you...Yeah that's sane.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 11/2/2009 12:27:08 PM
Message:
Robot, the key word is senate *minority* report. the minority, the GOP, has an agenda. how do you not know that? remember the last GOP administration used to edit all the bad news of public versions of NASA environmental reports. Dolt.
RAsmussen polls are not reliable. the election is reliable. do you know what elections are? its what we do in a democracy. and the people in the last election voted for socialism, and what they got is more free enterprise. Obama duped the socialism loving masses, like any typical politician who has no clear ideals.
you should apparently read "reasoning and arguing for dummies" because you got it flipped around on the Dede thing, and you can't even support your argument with sound reasoning. A lawyer, for example, or a politician can make a convincing argument against the facts, but you are obviously too dumb to be either. you might say "the sky is brown because I want it to be." that would be case closed for you. and that's sad. Anyway, back to Dede - a good person tries to run as a Republican, and gets forced out because the other Republicans find out she's a good person - and you call this a victory for Republicans? to me (and eventually to you when you see how badly the Republicans lose the elections in NY because of this issue) that shows the democrats are stronger than ever. if the Republicans are that scared of other white people (Democrats) then they really are doomed. Fool.
Name: Old Guard
Email:
Date: 11/2/2009 12:22:46 PM
Message:
Rob,
This is a PUBLIC BOARD and any information that IS IN THE PUBLIC can be posted on here, the newspaper, or even posted on a bulletin board for all to see without your consent. The key words are IF THEY ARE FACTUAL AND NOT FALSE STATEMENTS.
I had no reason to check your ID but then again I, Ronald Ellison, have posted my true name and don't hide who I am. I even offered to talk face to face with you but you still hide behind your keyboard. I have no desire to fight just to meet the person with such pronounced views on everything under the sun.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 11/2/2009 12:07:16 PM
Message:
Rush sure nailed this president for what he is.. on the money! What a mess the next president will have to clean up.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 11/2/2009 12:03:41 PM
Message:
Why would anyone dispute what you said in your "statement" chooch?? You use race to try to intimidate and get your point across. You'll say anything to support your socialist agenda. Problem for you is your all alone. By the way, your journey to save the world sure ended fast, did you get fired or something? lol
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/2/2009 11:49:42 AM
Message:
If I wasn't right about this, it would be funny. President Obama is live right now admitting on TV that most of the growth from his GDP figure was "debt-driven". His words.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/2/2009 11:47:20 AM
Message:
Chuck, race-baiting is racist behaviour. Saul Alinsky would be so proud of you. So would Robert Byrd.
Dig out that copy of "Rules for Radicals" and check out " "The enemy properly goaded and guided in his reaction will be your major strength." Well you blew that attempt. Your assessment of Kool Aid is absolutely ludicrous.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/2/2009 11:41:34 AM
Message:
BillyBob, you are correct about the "Kool Ade" reference. As I mentioned this morning, it refers to Jim Jones and the Jonestown massacre. Blind devotion.
This guy thinks it is a racist connotation. What!!?? I have Kool Ade punch in my kitchen right now. The kind without the cyanide.
This is typical radical off-the-wall thinking at work.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/2/2009 11:35:58 AM
Message:
I love how the liberals spin Ford's earnings as proof that the government should continue to bail out the private sector. The truth shall set you free:
The earnings came despite an $800 million revenue drop. But Ford said it cut costs by $1 billion during the quarter, accomplished through layoffs in North America and Europe, reduced pension and retiree health care costs and improvements in productivity and product development.
Ford also has benefited from consumer goodwill after it declined government bailout money and didn't go into bankruptcy over the summer as GM and Chrysler did. Ford grabbed sales from its rivals, posting the largest increase in market share of any automaker in September. Ford expects an overall gain in U.S. market share in 2009, a feat it hasn't accomplished since 1995.
This is how you make a profit in the Obama economy: CUTS. Ford further says it does not see Cash For Clunkers as what pushed it into a profitable 3rd quarter:
"Ford didn't quantify the impact of Cash for Clunkers, which offered buyers rebates to trade in their vehicles. The program helped Ford cut costly incentives and raise production. It also won buyers; the Ford Focus and Ford Escape were among the top five sellers in the program. Ford sales were up 17 percent in August thanks to the program.".
Again, what the program did was squeeze 2 quarters of auto sales into the 3rd quarter. The residual effect is diminished inventories (Have you seen the empty car lots?) due to cuts in production before the program and the lag in the system from production to delivery. No jobs were created, even. In fact, government (Which means taxpayer money, for all the idiots in the world), just made it possible for Ford to become lean in the short term. Since they are the only automaker to NOT get a bailout, they were able to turn a profit. GOOD FOR FORD!
If you need any further explanation of supply and demand principle (yes, YOU!) please let me know. I will be happy to explain it in terms that are easy to understand, for even the most simple Democrat.
Name: BillyBob
Email: USA
Date: 11/2/2009 11:17:51 AM
Message:
cooch - wow. Have you been on a drinking binge? Sounds like you've been hitting something a lot harder than kool aid in that last post ..... I'm guessing, genius, that the reference is to Jim Jones and the Jonestown massacre, wherein hundreds of followers killed themselves via use of a posioned drink (i.e., the "kool aid").
Blind allegiance to the good "Reverend" led them to do this. Thus, that reference to "drinking the kool aid" has come to mean those who blindly follow a "leader" without a will of their own. While I could in fact draw a comparison to the Messiah Obama phenomenon, that by itself is not racist. The term / reference certainly isn't.
I can't imagine what the hell you're talking about being racist about that. But then, most of what you prattle on about doesn't make a lot of sense.
I thought you were off to save the world anyway - what happened to your crusade? That sure ran out of steam pretty fast .......
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/2/2009 10:56:02 AM
Message:
Since Chuck brought up Dede Scozzafava and seemed so unnerved by the whole NY 23 race, let me explain why he is so upset by her dropping out of the race.
Dede is a huge liberal. So-happens she was endorsed by the Working Families Party (Socialist Workers Party). The ACORN affiliated Working Families Party is citing the 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination to withhold documents related to whether the WFP is scamming the campaign finance system.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/staten_island/pol_stonewalls_suit_on_wfp_campaign_jfAcTun52Fz9md9fX7Y92L
This candidate was part of his hope for hanging on to liberals in office. It looks worse for the democrats day by day.
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 11/2/2009 10:41:43 AM
Message:
Also let me save you folks that want to dispute my statement reference kool-aid drinkers. I am well aware this particular phrase was coined in reference to the Jim Jones followers originally. As most derogatory phrases do it has morphed to mean something entirely different. Ask a non-white person what message it sends them or what they believe it means.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/2/2009 10:35:39 AM
Message:
Marine,
Let me see if I have this right: Obama says he is postponing any decision regarding Afganistan (while it was the deadliest month for our troops), until the election is over to "see what kind of government we will be dealing with" as if that really matters in what is supposed to be a war against terrorists. Then There was a mandated runnoff due to election fraud (Does Acorn operate there, too?) Then Abdullah Abdullah abandons the runoff to protest the fraud, the government declares Hamid Karzai the victor, and Obama sends letters of congrats to Karzai! How is that so far?
Now what in the world did any of this have to do with the troop requests that McKrystal made months ago? What happened to the resolve from Obama's campaign to make Afg our greatest priority? Patton said a war worth fighting is one worth winning. If there is no desire to win, why are we still there.
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 11/2/2009 10:30:23 AM
Message:
Rut roh, Ford sales were helped by the cash for clunkers program which helped them make $873 million in profit for the quarter.
from CNN.Money this morning..
Excluding special items, Ford reported a profit of $873 million, or 26 cents a share, in the period. Analysts had been forecasting a loss of 12 cents a share for the quarter on this basis. Ford said it was the first pre-tax operating profit since the start of 2008.
Results in North America were also helped by much stronger sales than a year earlier, particularly in the United States, where the company was one of the prime beneficiaries of the Cash for Clunkers program that gave buyers up to $4,500 if they traded in a gas guzzler for a more fuel efficient vehicle.
Imagine that, Ford had not shown a profit since the start of 2008, then the interferring, big government, institutes a program to help boost auto sales and save the automobile industry and Ford makes a profit. My, my, my.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/2/2009 10:08:21 AM
Message:
For those who believe I credit "misleading" or twisted references, This information regarding the GDP is from
The Complete Idiot's Guide to Economics © 2003 by Tom Gorman:
All Together Now: C + I + G
Consumption by consumers, investment by businesses, and government spending are the three major parts of our economy and of most economies. (Foreign trade, conducted by exporters and importers, is the remaining sector, which I'll discuss soon.)
The size of a nation's economy is the total value of the spending on goods and services in the nation in a year. This spending occurs in the form of transactions within and between these three sectors. The flip side of this spending is production, because you can buy only what has been produced. So we can also measure an economy based on its production. Therefore, when you add up all of these transactions—and the value of foreign trade—the result is gross domestic product, or GDP. The formula for GDP is:
• GDP = C + I + G + (Ex - Im)
Gross Domestic Product is the sum of all spending on goods and services in a nation's economy in a year. The formula for GDP is: GDP = C + I + G + (Ex - Im), where “C” equals spending by consumers, “I” equals investment by businesses, “G” equals government spending and “(Ex - Im)” equals net exports, that is, the value of exports minus imports. Net exports may be negative.
Subsidies are transfer payments to assist industries that benefit the public, but might not survive or remain stable if operated for profit without subsidies. Farm products and rail transportation are subsidized in most modern economies.
The parts of the formula are simple:
• C = total spending by consumers
• I = total investment (spending on goods and services) by businesses
• G = total spending by government (federal, state, and local)
• (Ex - Im) = net exports (exports - imports)
Of course, since consumer spending has been in the tank for the past FEW YEARS, and accounts for 65% of the GDP, and businesses are not expanding (investment in business=expansion. Unemployment is still growing and inventories are extremely low) AND the United States has a trade deficit (import more than we export), Government spending (CARS, STIMULUS) alone resulted in an inflated GDP growth in the 3rd quarter 2009. What CARS did was squeeze 4th quarter sales into the 3rd quarter, at a huge expense to the taxpayer.
Doom and Gloom? Hard to be roses and daffodils when you are intelligent enough to understand the truth behind the numbers the government feeds you.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 11/2/2009 9:57:42 AM
Message:
Chooch...a politician jumping parties! This is the best you can do. Politicians have been known to do this...both ways.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 11/2/2009 9:54:17 AM
Message:
Chooch your a fine example of what socialism does to a person. Grow Up son.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/2/2009 9:45:22 AM
Message:
Gerd,
Why you and others are so fascinated with my identity and background is beyond me. My history is not very salacious. As far as that goes, I resent that anyone would want to perform a background check without my consent because I am none of your business. You people are not officers of any court and I'm not a public figure. But like I said, knock yourselves out but my private life has no business in this forum. I do have a reasonable right to privacy, as do you.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/2/2009 9:38:45 AM
Message:
"So keep up the rhetoric. Keep up misquoting. Keep embelishing and twisting the truth. Keep quoting "created" reports that are not worth the paper they are written on. Keep using the doom and gloom approach. People will continue to abandon the party of "NO" in droves and that suits me just fine."
Ok, I will certainly keep it up. What misquoting, or twisting? I reference real, live, actual studies and reports. I even gave you links, as you folks often demand. As far as the doom and gloom approach: LOOK AROUND YOU. I didn't create it, it EXISTS. The presiden't policies are destroying the economy and devaluing the dollar. One has to live in a cocoon not to see what is happening.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/2/2009 9:33:54 AM
Message:
The problem with Dede Scozzafava, and her campaign for NY 23 is that she is NOT a conservative republican. I was amazed that she got GOP support in the beginning, and subsequently Newt supported her based on that. She is essentially a democrat who classified herself as Republican thinking that would help her win. She is pro TARP, pro stimulus, pro abortion, pro Obama.
The GOP needs real Reagan conservatives, and needs to stop embracing so-called moderates. Moderates, and left-leaners are why we are in such a mess as it is. I believe this will be the trend in the next few years: a shift back to real conservatism, and rejecting leftist radicalism.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/2/2009 9:23:02 AM
Message:
Oh what a totally misinformed fellow.
Chuck, References to Kool-Ade are from Jim Jones (JONESTOWN). You know, the social radical Jim Jones, who lured almost 1000 people to their death by "drinking the Kool Ade"? The Peoples Temple? The Temple chose Guyana, in part, because of its socialist politics, which were also moving further to the left during the selection process?
Did you, the Exalted Researcher who will show us all the way to Social Righteosness, really not understand what "drinking the Kool Ade" means?
Damn, the liberals are in trouble for sure with this one as one of their mouthpieces!
Name: Chooch
Email: chendrixjr@frontiernet.net
Date: 11/2/2009 12:38:53 AM
Message:
What a laugh riot. This is what sane people think of the "conservatives" and the Repukelican Party and its direction. It's only the sheep and dumb asses that do not bother to check the creditability of the "reports" they like to quote. Or they just blindly follow and believe all the "news" and "reports" that are CREATED by the insurance industry among others. I'm loving this watching you nut cases destroy your own party because of your total ignorance to the truth and the obvious racist attitudes by many of you fruit loops. Repeated statements in reference to Kool-Aid drinkers is an obvious racist slur so don't even attempt to say it is NOT your primary reasoning to oppose anything and everything the current administration is attempting. The only reason any person would use the terminology kool-aid drinker and it not be a racist slur is if your talking about kids. You are not talking about kids though are you, you fools. You think people can't figure out what your real agenda is because some of you are pretty damn stupid as well as racists. Now go ahead and throw out your argument that that is the first thing that "liberals" bring up, racism. If referencing Kool-Aid drinkers is not racist, then the Pope is not Catholic either.
These comments were posted on CNN in reference to Bonehead's (Boehner) interview with John King and the New York Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava withdrawal from the special election for ex-GOP Rep. John McHugh’s seat in the northern New York congressional district. McHugh resigned to become Secretary of the Army. (The next day she also endorsed her democratic opponent over her repukelican opponent.)
John November 1st, 2009 4:21 pm ET
I was a moderate Republican until this week. It has been made abundantly clear to me in the NY 23 race that moderates are not welcome in the Republican party. That is fine, I don't need the Republican party, but it desperately needs me and all like me. In the future I will vote for the party that still welcomes moderates, the Democrats. It is shameful and disgraceful what has become of the Grand Old Party, I am embarassed to tell anyone I am or was a Republican.
The Lonely Libertarian of Liverpool NY November 1st, 2009 4:21 pm ET
I was a member of the GOP for 27 Years here in Upstate NY. The only time the Republicains would talk to us was for a donation, they never asked for ours needs or concerns, basically they knew what was best for me and I'll just take it. Well we not going to take it anymore. I want represenitives who understand that this nation is a Republic, I want representation who considers the constitution first not the majority of the polls.
End the Wars....
Steve, New York City November 1st, 2009 4:21 pm ET
Wow – so the Republican party is aiming to fill itself with birthers, anti-science types (who believe that politicians somehow know more about global warming than climatologists), and loud-mouthed half-wits who believe anything uttered by stooges, such as Rush Limbaugh or Glen Beck.
I am Republican!!
I am DISGUSTED by the turn the party has taken. Where are the guys like Bush '41, Chris Shays, or Weld of Massachussets? If you guys keep throwing me people like Palin or Toomey, I am DEFINITELY leaving the party.
Bonnie Kimberly November 1st, 2009 3:22 pm ET
A big welcome tent you say! I am no longer a Republican I can't be party to the hard line "MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY" type of politics that seem to drive these Washington types. I guess I will have to wait out a few elections.Whatever happened to putting the people first then your ideas?
Max November 1st, 2009 3:20 pm ET
"the leading House Republican said his party still casts a big, welcome tent to all those who would call themselves Republican"
When Bush was in office, I expressed my concern about the direction the administration was taking on certain issues, to the state Republican office and told them I had considered going independent. Their response to me was "Best of luck to you". To me that didn't sound welcoming but rather they were saying good riddance. To clarify, the welcome tent only applies if you blindly follow them.
Debbie from CA November 1st, 2009 3:04 pm ET
After 35 years as a Republican I left when the far right radical conservatives took over the party. It's down right scarey. They want a government that believes only in their views. It reminded me of the radical Islam Shira Law. There is no room in the GOP for centristist. Reagan would not even recognize the Republican Party today.
kevintexas November 1st, 2009 4:50 pm ET
I'm done with the republican party. They continue to push us moderates out of the Party. I'm done, call me a Democrat now.
So keep up the rhetoric. Keep up misquoting. Keep embelishing and twisting the truth. Keep quoting "created" reports that are not worth the paper they are written on. Keep using the doom and gloom approach. People will continue to abandon the party of "NO" in droves and that suits me just fine.
Name: health insurance
Email: yourhealth@pickens.com
Date: 10/31/2009 9:17:52 PM
Message:
Beleive me when I tell you if you dont purchase health insurance on your own now. You will pay for it tenfold later. Taxes will increase. More people will be on medicaid and Consumer products and services will skyrocket because employer sponsored health insurance will double. Good Luck.
Name: waterbill
Email: waterbill@jasper.com
Date: 10/31/2009 3:04:24 PM
Message:
Dear City of Jasper,
You have doubled my water bill in the past year. Claiming at the time the drought was severe and we are in a water shortage. You were so quick to double my bill. Let see how fast you reduce it? By the way why don't you keep your fancy return envelope.
Thank you
Concerned Tax Payer in Pickens County.
Name: Bob Hayles
Email: roberthayles@windstream.net
Date: 10/31/2009 11:05:09 AM
Message:
Lucy, let's go with 2, 4, 5, 7, and 8.
9 is so laughable as to not even be worth mentioning.
Chooch, grow up.
Name: Marine
Email: marine1
Date: 10/30/2009 11:08:03 PM
Message:
Guard, we are not doing anything but losing yet more lives in Afghanistan. Not to mention that when ground Generals have asked for more troops, that means we are having a problem. Not to mention (guess who), is dragging his feet in ordering these troops.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 10/30/2009 6:00:33 PM
Message:
For everyone interested, especially the global-warmers out there, familiarize yourself with what is the definitive global warming study. Professor Richard Lindzen of MIT gathered data for decades. Some relavant details of the study reveal:
The global surface temperature record, which we update and publish every month, has shown no statistically-significant “global warming” for almost 15 years. Statistically-significant global cooling has now
persisted for very nearly eight years. Even a strong el Nino – expected in the coming months – will be unlikely to reverse the cooling trend.
More significantly, the ARGO bathythermographs deployed
throughout the world’s oceans since 2003 show that the top 400 fathoms of the oceans, where it is agreed between all parties that at least 80% of all heat caused by manmade “global warming” must accumulate, have been cooling over the past six years. That now prolonged ocean cooling is fatal to the “official” theory that “global warming” will happen on anything other than a minute scale.
"There are only a couple of conclusions to be made of this. Either the world has been misled by scientists working for the UN and IPCC due to faulty science, or faulty science has been deliberately used in a global scheme to generate tax revenues for the Governments instituting Cap and Trade Taxation policies.
Either way, the world has been the victim of some very bad science. The results of which can be seen in drastically reduced GDP in countries with the Cap and Trade laws in place, as well a a 5 - 10% decrease in standard of living for those citizens living there all with little or no effect on emissions globally.
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/co2_report_july_09.pdf
I implore you to read the report, look at the graphs which are compiled into metrics from real-world measurements, not models at NOAA.
Name: Old Guard
Email:
Date: 10/30/2009 4:59:14 PM
Message:
Rob,
I found this in a NY Times article from June 2009 and think you may want to read it since you seem to have a minority of only 500 (out of 60,000,000 scientists) scientific opinions on global warming (and NO FACTS TO DISPROVE IT)
In April 2008, environmental journalist Richard Littlemore wrote that a bibliography written by Dennis Avery and posted on Heartland’s Web site, titled "500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man-Made Global Warming Scares,” included at least 45 scientists who neither knew of their inclusion as "coauthors" of the article, nor agreed with its claims regarding global warming. Dozens of the scientists asked the Heartland Institute to remove their names from the list; for instance, Gregory Cutter of Old Dominion University wrote, "I have NO doubts... the recent changes in global climate ARE man-induced. I insist that you immediately remove my name from this list since I did not give you permission to put it there." Dr. Robert Whittaker, Professor of Biogeography, University of Oxford wrote "Please remove my name. What you have done is totally unethical!"
It quoted Dennis Avery saying “Not all of these researchers would describe themselves as global warming skeptics,” said Avery, “but the evidence in their studies is there for all to see.” Heartland’s president, Joseph Bast, wrote “They have no right -- legally or ethically -- to demand that their names be removed from a bibliography composed by researchers with whom they disagree. Their names probably appear in hundreds or thousands of bibliographies accompanying other articles or in books with which they disagree. Do they plan to sue hundreds or thousands of their colleagues? The proper response is to engage in scholarly debate, not demand imperiously that the other side redact its publications.”
Rob, I guess your best source is tainted and inaccurate. Give me some real facts to prove the opinion of a minority of the scientific community!
Name: Old Guard
Email:
Date: 10/30/2009 4:31:14 PM
Message:
Rob,
If my understanding is right... anyone can list your name, address, phone number, and any public record obtained through a phone book, DMV search, military records, Offenders list, tax record, court record or anything you place into the public sector. The only limit is your SS#, sealed documents, birth certificate, adoption record and slander (not verified with facts). The only way to prevent the posting of PUBLIC INFORMATION is by an injunction in court not just by saying "you can't do that".
You would be amazed at what the correct form and a search fee can find on someone. The government that you think is so secure has never been secure. Maybe I could help Chooch? I love a great mystery...especially when you shatter someone's image of privacy.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1
Date: 10/30/2009 4:24:33 PM
Message:
I should have been an economics major. This is basically what I posted yesterday regarding the false GDP growth:
"University of Maryland economist Peter Morici says the White House has it backward.
"The Fed is much more responsible for the improvement in the economy than the stimulus.
Three-point-five percent is a terribly deceptive number. A good deal of that was Cash for Clunkers, which won't repeat. We're probably going to be growing at 2 to 2-and-a-half percent a year going forward and that's not enough to bring down unemployment. We should really have a number of 5% or 6% coming out of a recession like this. That's the norm, this means the economy is not healthy at all."
Consumer spending decreased last quarter and inventories are way down. The only significant spending done last quarter was by the federal government. And that was debt spending, which is killing the dollar. The white house is giving you fake, BS numbers to persuade people who can't read into believing the economy is improving.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 10/30/2009 4:08:35 PM
Message:
Hey Pinto,
According to a Rasmussen Reports national survey from April 2009:
Asked whether capitalism or socialism is a better system, 53% of American adults cited capitalism, 20% said socialism and 27% said they weren't sure.
In other words, most people do not prefer socialism as you would have us believe. So, 20% is a majority? Maybe in the bizzarro world. And 27% of people are just clueless. That's equally frightening.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 10/30/2009 4:03:28 PM
Message:
Hi Pinto,
Please feel free to read the senate minority report on climate change.
http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=2674e64f-802a-23ad-490b-bd9faf4dcdb7
I poeted this several days ago. It includes studies and scientific opinion referenced from over 700 scientists from around the world. I posted a few here that I randonly selected from the report, but you can read them all. Inclused are notable experts from NASA, for example. Be sure to tell me how many times you need me to re-post the link to the report.
You are such a loon.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 10/30/2009 4:00:55 PM
Message:
Pinto...you are amusing. So how did you figure out that the majority of Americans actually want a shift to socialism? Top secret sources? The invisible man that talks to you? Someone from your planet sending you messages?
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 10/30/2009 3:57:17 PM
Message:
Rob, spending 3 billion dollars on new cars for people, as well as, $8,000 for new houses does tend to help the GDP look good. However, it is like buying a new car when your credit cards are maxed beyond the limit. It feels good for a couple days then it hits you. You've seen neighbors do that and you wonder how? Then you see those same people go bankrupt from being over extended. This country is over extended and it is a mater of time. For Obama to brag about this only shows how willing he is to mislead the public. Watch what happens here soon....this country has big money problems yet Obama continues to drive us deeper in a hole. You simply can't tax your way to prosperity.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 10/30/2009 3:48:18 PM
Message:
Pinto...great, can you make us all a list of the states you refer to? Post them and we will all review it for correctness. Include the %'s as well.
Also, your right about Obama getting the votes, mistakes do happen although we usually get it right by voting for something other than a liberal over the years. I'm betting that in 2010 and 2012 your turn will be up and everyone learned their lesson. Nopw go do your homework.....don't forget to take those meds.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 10/30/2009 3:47:56 PM
Message:
NamVet...Just think of all the liberals who wouldn't get a vote at all. LOL
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 10/30/2009 3:26:01 PM
Message:
Lucy,
With all due respect, we discuss the points you raised very often, and have done so for over a year now. At least as long as I've been participating.
As far as the Edmunds report, do a search on it. It explains the percentage of car sales that were simply normal seasonal sales and would have occurred anyway, regardless of the CARS program. You can't count those sales as net attributed to the government program: people buy cars anyway. Of course the gov. counts every car sold during the program as growth. A significant number of sales were a given, those sales just profitted from "free" tax incentives. Some sales were arguably triggered solely by the CARS program, and those sales CAN be counted. However, GM is still set to receive another bailout because their sales are still flat. Ford didn't get bailed out, and their sales are growing. Government intrusion does not help, it only makes companies like GM, flat and consumptive.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 10/30/2009 3:09:49 PM
Message:
actually, the majority of people in this country support a shift to socialism. obama promised as much in his campaign for black president, and an overwhelming majority of people still voted for him. in fact, fewer people like him now because he is not as socialist as he promised he would be...
jeep - still you don't make any sense. what is so bad about everyone being on govt health insurance if the govt shows it can provide better access to better health care than any private insurers can now? oh thats right - because it would lead to healthier and longer living black people...
NonVet - there, there. "free loading liberals"? might I remind you that red states (Republican states) as a whole have far higher portions of their populations on welfare, food stamps, and general assistance than the blue (liberal) states?
Robot - no, its true - you haven't posted any evidence that global warming is not happening. you just want to shoot the messenger. and three "scientists" contradicting the rest does not prove the absence of a consensus that it is really ahppening.
you "weren't afraid of the Iraqi guard"???? that's because you were a member of the Iraqi guard!!!! Idiot!!!!
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 10/30/2009 2:52:15 PM
Message:
Darn Jeep....I'd only get half a vote lol
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 10/30/2009 2:49:14 PM
Message:
Chooch....FYI it isn't necessary to use peoples addresses or personal information on here to get your point across. We all know why you would do that and it isn't cool. We all know what a threat is or isn't as well.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 10/30/2009 2:33:07 PM
Message:
I thought it interesting that yestterday the white house claimed an economic victory using the false GDP numbers. They based the 3.5 on what they say is the success of cash for clunkers. Today, the white house took a hard turn and touted the recovery act as being the main factor of economic growth. Remember 2 weeks ago the white house economic advisor reported the stimulus was a "bust". Apparently they didn't get the memo that the US has lost 3.5 million jobs since the recovery act was signed.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 10/30/2009 2:23:01 PM
Message:
Sherry Burgess, I'm glad you are well. Peidmont took great care of my wife last summer, as well. That is a fine facility, staffed with true professionals.
Take care- Rob
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 10/30/2009 2:15:25 PM
Message:
The more I read of Chooch...the more I'm confused. I thought liberals were all about giving the non-taxpayers more rights. Chooch, your fellow lefties are going to be very disappointed.
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