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Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/9/2009 8:01:18 PM
Message:
I believe this point has been hammered home. We absolutely have to counter the cultural wave of political correctness:
"The issue here is that there's a political correctness climate in the military. They don't want to say anything because it would be considered questioning somebody's religious belief, or they're afraid of an equal opportunity lawsuit.
"I want to be clear that this wasn't about anyone questioning his religious views. It is different when you are a civilian than when you are a military officer," said Finnell, who is a physician at the Los Angeles Air Force Base.
"He was a lightning rod. He made his views known and he was very vocal, he had extremely radical jihadist views," Finnell said. "When you're a military officer you take an oath to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.
"They should've confronted him — our professors, officers — but they were too concerned about being politically correct."
--Lt. Col. Val Finnell, Hasan's classmate at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md.,
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/9/2009 6:44:03 PM
Message:
Jeep, I did make note of Pelosi's "medicare" reference! I am never let down when she talks. She is the Queen of "Idontgetitland".
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/9/2009 5:11:31 PM
Message:
NamVet: You are close to the mark on your market assessment. Below is the analysis of the day's market activity:
Dow Soars to New ’09 Heights as Dollar Dives
The bears were in full retreat Monday as a fresh 15-month low for the U.S. dollar fueled a buying binge in stocks and commodities and pushed the Dow to unseen territory for 2009.
The latest dive for the greenback was fueled by new pledges from finance ministers at the G20 summit to keep stimulus efforts in place until the global economy recovers.
“They are basically saying: ‘We are going to continue to print money,’” said Art Hogan, chief market strategist at Jefferies & Co.
Nothing good can come of this unless the admin raises taxes or interest rates: decreasing the money in circulation. It is all a disaster no matter how you look at it.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/9/2009 4:48:30 PM
Message:
Did someone say hypocrisy?
November 7, 2009: (Mr. Obama has made it a goal of his presidency to repair relations with Muslims around the world; in a major speech in Cairo this year, he called for a “new beginning” with the Muslim world) In a Rose Garden appearance on Friday, Mr. Obama urged Americans not to “jump to conclusions” about the motives behind the Ft. Hood shooting, a theme he echoed on Saturday.
July 22, 2009: "I don’t know – not having been there and not seeing all the facts – what role race played in that, but I think it’s fair to say, number one, any of us would be pretty angry; number two that the Cambridge police acted stupidly in arresting somebody when there was already proof that they were in their own home,"
Who exactly shouldn’t jump to conclusions, Mr. Obama? What? Can’t hear you, speak up!
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/9/2009 4:17:09 PM
Message:
Some of the big bullets direct from HR 3962 "Pelosi Care"-
• Sec. 224 (p. 118) provides that 18 months after the bill becomes law, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will decide what a "qualified plan" covers and how much you'll be legally required to pay. (Pay now, we'll tell you what for later)
• Sec. 59b (pp. 297-299) says that when you file your taxes, you must include proof that you are in a qualified plan. If not, you will be fined thousands of dollars. Illegal immigrants are exempt from this requirement.
• Sec. 412 (p. 272) says that employers must provide a "qualified plan" for their employees and pay 72.5% of the cost, and a smaller share of family coverage, or incur an 8% payroll tax. Small businesses, with payrolls from $500,000 to $750,000, are fined less.
• Sec. 1114 (pp. 391-393) replaces physicians with physician assistants in overseeing care for hospice patients.
• Secs. 1158-1160 (pp. 499-520) initiates programs to reduce payments for patient care to what it costs in the lowest cost regions of the country. This will reduce payments for care (and by implication the standard of care) for hospital patients in higher cost areas such as New York and Florida.
• Sec. 1161 (pp. 520-545) cuts payments to Medicare Advantage plans (used by 20% of seniors).
• Sec. 1402 (p. 756) says that the results of comparative effectiveness research conducted by the government will be delivered to doctors electronically to guide their use of "medical items and services." (Rationing)
• Sec. 399V (p. 1422) provides for grants to community "entities" with no required qualifications except having "documented community activity and experience with community healthcare workers" to "educate, guide, and provide experiential learning opportunities" aimed at drug abuse, poor nutrition, smoking and obesity. "Each community health worker program receiving funds under the grant will provide services in the cultural context most appropriate for the individual served by the program." (ACORN?)
• Secs. 2521 and 2533 (pp. 1379 and 1437) establishes racial and ethnic preferences in awarding grants for training nurses and creating secondary-school health science programs. For example, grants for nursing schools should "give preference to programs that provide for improving the diversity of new nurse graduates to reflect changes in the demographics of the patient population." And secondary-school grants should go to schools "graduating students from disadvantaged backgrounds including racial and ethnic minorities." (Preferential treatment for non-white minorities--this provision was also in HR 3200)
• Sec. 305 (p. 189) provides for automatic Medicaid enrollment of newborns that do not otherwise have insurance.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 11/9/2009 3:51:36 PM
Message:
by "research assistant" I guess you mean I need to elarn how to pick and choose, and present only the evidence that supports my agenda. but I have no agenda, as you all know. of course only 42 percent of people support obama's healthcare plan, because it's not a government plan. almost every single poll, no matter who its conducted by in the last 10 years says that between 60 and 70 percent of the people want a "single payer" system. same with abortion - actually the average in support is about 75 percent, and please look at all the polls Robot, not just the one you like. if you have trouble articulating your position, please admit that - we won't judge you on that, we can't all be scholarly writers. but we do judge you on your inability to determine what is fact and what is fiction. so please don't make false, uncreative and trite accusations of "stupidity" over and over again, like a parrot. this is pretty basic, I learned it in 2nd grade...
Name: Marine
Email: marine1
Date: 11/9/2009 3:08:12 PM
Message:
Rob..where do 'gays' in the military shower? Which head to they use? I know someone who is a pipefitter by trade and he doesn't know either.
Name: Marine
Email: marine1
Date: 11/9/2009 3:06:02 PM
Message:
Nam..My pleasure!
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 11/9/2009 2:41:27 PM
Message:
Anyone else find it amusing that Pelosi likened the health care reform bill passing to the passage of Social Security and Medicare.....two government run entities on the verge of bankruptcy. Let's hope this isn't how the healthcare reform ends up...
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 11/9/2009 2:26:10 PM
Message:
Jeep: I agree with you 110% on this correctness issue. We as a country need to stop it but Opie will let it continue. BTW, thank you Marine for the nick of "Opie" i'm still laughing.
I just read a long warning about the stock market. People should be careful for another crash. The market is totally propped up with printed money at the moment and will burst sometime in the near future. This and the fact we as a country continue to take on more debt is driving the country into a hole we cannot get out of. The warning also mentioned dividends on retirement accounts. These accounts could go into trouble as they are not making what they need to survive. Pay attention and make the moves to protect what you have left...
Name: Marine
Email: marine1
Date: 11/9/2009 12:30:28 PM
Message:
While most of the media is reporting that Hasan was "afraid" to go to war, why in the hell would he then open fire on his own peers? He obviously knew he wouldn't get away with that without harm. He himself hated the fact that we were taking out radical muslims and that was his platform. Cnn just reported that he was "afraid" of war...Unbelievable. This other idiot that was on the news last night, Shabbbbk Abbbabbba BooBoo, said Hasan was a good muslim. I did notice he was visiting the Seven Eleven for a pack of Camels and a slurpee.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/9/2009 12:12:29 PM
Message:
I apologize to everyone here, I do not want to dominate the discussion with too much more of Islam and good ole Allah, but I thought of something that Old Gerd seems to misunderstand.
Serving in the military service in our country is not a right. It is a privileged and an honor. Many people do not make the cut. No person has the right to serve based on religion, sex, or whatever exclusionary principal you want to invoke. If you do not live by these things, in this order, you have NO business being in the military: God, Country, and Unit (Corps, ship, or whatever unit).
You have your signals crossed. You give your life to the military. The Quran isn’t issued in your sea bag.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 11/9/2009 12:02:15 PM
Message:
Rob...I think the counseling will work best with Pinto. He'ld probably hire Chooch as a research assistant...and well, enough said.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/9/2009 11:59:58 AM
Message:
Old Ford,
Ok, stop crying. Here is your list of exclusions:
Religion -- I don’t support exclusion based on religion. I do support a high level of alertness regarding Muslims. (For “DUH” reasons.)
Sex Are you kidding me? The more sex the better!
Race – only to the chow hall!
Sexual Orientation – I have an issue with this, based on morale reasons but society is evolving toward complete acceptance. I oppose special rules based on sexual orientation.
Nationality—no opinion. What is your point?
Physical Structure—what? Is this the “big boobs” theory? You make no sense. This is why I do not respond to every little thing you say. There's just no value in most of what you write. You are just an angry, cranky old man who hates his country for what he perceives as crimes against the world.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 11/9/2009 11:56:26 AM
Message:
Old Guard....I have to side with you on this one. You are correct about the Quran. I do think a large majority of Muslims are peace seeking. However,there also seems to be a large group of radicals who take the Quran very literally. Glad to hear you say we didn't deserve this war as well. For awhile I wondered if you were a peace at any price guy.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/9/2009 11:49:07 AM
Message:
By the way, Elder Nard,
The Quran has many mentions of the love that Allah has for his followers. The problem is, it is conditional love. Muslims are commanded to Love Allah, and in return he gives HIS love. Or if you live life a certain way. According to Islam, a Muslim is supposed to love God as a Ghulam (slave). This is a religion of heartless, almost empty following that promises rewards that you may or may not get. But the basic philosophy of love is detailed in the book. Just highly skewed from the unconditional love we know about.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/9/2009 11:39:47 AM
Message:
Oh there you go, Nerd. Climb up on your white horse of Christianity and look down upon the idiot masses. I don’t think Jesus would do that.
The Quran refers to the “eventuality” that Islam will dominate the world. It vaguely talks about how Muslims should deal with those who refuse Islam, even how those people should be taxed. However, there is no overt mandate to kill opposition. Radical Muslims have taken these passages and twisted them to serve them in what they call the “3rd Jihad”. The first was 7AD, then 15th century when they spread through Turkey and Spain. 3rd Jihad is worldwide control. I defend my religion too, but we have to be fair in how we compare. There are parts of the Bible that are quite ugly and intolerant as well, but the vast majority of Christians don’t run around blowing up subway stations or killing our own troops for God.
There is a point where religious freedom and our culture of political correctness becomes our point of failure. We (actually Progressivism has) have opened ourselves to radicalism. Every radical Imam has spoken to this truth: that our openness and democratic beliefs make it easy for them to proliferate. I don’t know where you’re coming from, or what side you’re on because you have played both sides of this: you claim Islam is mostly an evil religion, with violent teachings but condemn any process that singles out Muslims as a violent sect. You also suggest that somehow we deserve violence against us because attitudes like mine only make them bolder? Should we abrogate our right to live on this planet simply by virtue of not pissing off the Muslims? I don’t think they need our help being pissed off, they will kill us anyway.
You seem OK with this. My point is simple: people like Hasan should be investigated and watched. Period. If it was known he was attending the same Mosque that 9/11 hijackers were, flag this nutjob and put him in a little room with one light and debrief him. Encourage people who have information that some Muslim is among us talking about the right to kill Americans to speak out. Doing nothing means people die.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 11/9/2009 10:22:05 AM
Message:
This is what political correctness has created.
Many people who knew Nidal Malik Hasan (the Fort Hood shooter) said they knew he had no place in the military but feared speaking up because Hasan was Muslim. He did a presentation that justified suicide missions.
Now he's a hero to the radical Muslims.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 11/9/2009 10:00:20 AM
Message:
Rob...I saw CNN last night. The one man loves Osama Bin Laden more than he loves anything. And to think these two men are American born. Scary!
....and then there's healthcare. Can't wait for it to go through the senate.
Name: Old Guard
Email:
Date: 11/9/2009 9:10:38 AM
Message:
Little Robbie,
I am a 57 year Christian of the Baptist faith and 23 year Elder of a church!!
You claim to be educated but where is it written in the Quran that Allah (not God) is loving Lord? I think you need to read the Quarn once more! The Quran is not filled with tolerance, love, forgiveness nor peace as you claim but it contains contempt for anyone who is not Islamic and encouragement for anyone who believes in and only in Allah (not Jesus nor a Holy Spirit).
According Islamic teaching, which goes back to its outcast (even among his own people in Arabia) founder Mohammad in the 600's AD, Allah stands alone without a son (for redemption of sin) nor the Holy Spirit. Therefore, under Islamic teachings, we are infidels for believing that Jesus made attoinment for our sins.
Allah is the totally opposite of my Lord and God. My God has been very tolerant of His people to not punish them for pornography, abortion, adultry or corrupting His name among the nations of the world.
You say that "the problem we face with fundamentalism is that it goes against the basic principles the Quran teaches. As I assume you know from your research, Sharia law and the precept of eliminating infidels is not inherent of traditional Islamic teachings."
Rob how can you, as an educated person, misunderstand the Quran's call to destruction that has remained in place since the Quran was written 1400 years ago?
"Seize ye him, and bind ye him, "And burn ye him in the Blazing Fire. "Further, make him march in a chain, whereof the length is seventy cubits!” This was he that would not believe in Allah Most High, (v. 69:30-33)
O Prophet! strive hard against the Unbelievers and the Hypocrites, and be firm against them. Their abode is Hell― an evil refuge (indeed). (v. 66:9)
Say: "O ye that stand on Judaism! if ye think that ye are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of (other) men, then express your desire for Death, if ye are truthful!" (v. 62:6)
These verses don't sound like a call for love, tolerance and brotherhood. I think you may need to read a little more on the Quran rather than using the "cliff notes".
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 11/9/2009 9:03:44 AM
Message:
Pinto: You're not giving a response simply tells us all just what an idiot you are. Anyhow, I gave you a chance to show us something other than your childish ways. Why don't you join the sesame street board.
Name: Old Guard
Email:
Date: 11/9/2009 8:15:18 AM
Message:
NamVet,
No Sir, we didn't deserve this war.
What I posted was in response to Rob who stated "How many people have to die like this before we stop being polite and politically correct about the situation?... Damn being polite. When you read, and understand what the ultimate islamic mission on this continent and the world is, politeness goes out the window. Who will be next?"
I posted the Quran reference, because Rob did not expand on what he was refering to, and many do not understand. Under the Quran teaching, Rob's attitude only excalates the violence and makes them bolder. I expanded in a second post that if we excluded people, like Rob advocates, then we would not have a military because of all the exemptions that can be made.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/8/2009 5:55:35 PM
Message:
Well boys and girls, some of our precious kids broke into PHS last night and vandalized a teachers work room, a classroom and several common areas. I wonder why the alarm isn't set? Construction is over.
Perhaps this will divert attention from the investigation into [deleted]. Or perhaps it is a case of "acting out" by young hooligans in response to that. Either way, there is an expensive security system in that building that was exploited due to its non-use.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/8/2009 4:46:47 PM
Message:
Oh Pinto, I missed an opportunity to dispute another one of your attempts to mislead everyone: You say most people favor a single-payer system of health care. Here's the truth:
Monday, August 10, 2009__Thirty-two percent (32%) of voters nationwide favor a single-payer health care system where the federal government provides coverage for everyone. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 57% are opposed to a single-payer plan.
Again, therapy or a research assistant. Please choose one.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/8/2009 3:45:03 PM
Message:
Pinto, the whole point of my opinions and the poll analysis went right over your head, again. I personally fell that so-called moderates should pick a side, a belief platform. The fact that they do not is simply so they can stay in office, as they get to change their platform depending on what the current demographic is. That is one thought, and it's my opinion.
Regarding the polls, most people identify themselves as conservative. Of those who identify as "moderate", they pretty much split down the middle between conservative and liberal. What is left, (no pun intended) is the liberal sect which has the lowest number of people claiming to lean toward any ideal. Do you understand now?
Oh, and the rest of your rambling post is wrong as well. Most people in the country are against government health care. "The latest Rasmussen poll found that 42 percent of those surveyed favored the healthcare plan proposed by President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats. That was down from 45 percent a week ago and unchanged from two weeks ago."
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform
As well as gay marriage: Every time this has come to a vote in this country it has been outlawed.
Abortion: A poll by the Pew Research Center found that 47 percent of Americans said abortion should be legal in all or most cases — a 7-point drop from a survey conducted by the organization one year ago. An additional 45 percent said abortion should be illegal — up 4 points from last year.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/27820.html#ixzz0WIokriO6
Interracial marriage: who cares?
Affirmative action: Mostly non-whites are in favor, the rest are split demographically. However the totals indicate most are opposed.
You need counseling or a research assistant. Your choice. Just know that until you secure one or both of those you will continue to be full of shit.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/8/2009 1:38:09 PM
Message:
Even though this is CNN, this is an enlightening video on the Islamic radical movement that is growing in America. It rerers to the NY group who praises Major Hasan, bin Laden, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yDuG7vgeSk&feature=player_embedded#
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/8/2009 12:43:57 PM
Message:
Old Nard,
I further want to direct your attention to what the radical Muslims in THIS COUNTRY are saying about Hasan’s actions at Ft. Hood. Some of these thoughts are very similar to what your own stated beliefs are. Oh to hell with that, they are EXACTLY what your stated beliefs are:
“Major Nidal Hasan M.D.
An officer and a gentleman was injured while partaking in a preemptive* attack.
Get Well Soon Major Nidal
We Love You
“We do NOT denounce this officer's actions,we do however apologize for the following acts committed by our country:
Bay of Tonkin
The East Timor Massacre by USA Supported Suharto
1902 Samar Massacre in the Philippines by the USMC
1,000,000 Dead Iraqis
Afghani & Pakistanis Killed by the USA
Starvation of Africa & Rape of it's Resources by the USA
Support of the Brutal "Israeli" Occupation Entity
Etc. Etc.
*as opposed to a USA's"Preventive War"(aka war crimes)”
http://www.revolutionmuslim.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=519:an-officer-a-a-gentleman&catid=1:yousefalkhattab&Itemid=4
These statements are on a NY man’s website, praising what Major Hasan did: murdering US servicemen on their own post.
In short, no wonder you claim to have such insight into the teachings of the Holy Quran. Evidently you have found a legion of radicals that shares a common belief system with you.
It is no wonder that you want to check my background and avoid me. It is ironic though, since I obey the law and love my country.
Name: Jack
Email: jack@weaverville.com
Date: 11/8/2009 12:07:25 PM
Message:
WASHINGTON HEADLINES
Pelosi claims 'HUGE WIN FOR DEMOCRATS' on health bill.
Yeah, Right - a win by just a hair over 1%. 5 vote win out of 435.
rollover in your grave George Orwell, you were 25 years too soon, 1984 is just beginning.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/8/2009 10:39:53 AM
Message:
Here is what our majority Democratic congress did last night:
The House passed an amendment that would prohibit federal funds from being used for abortions, which swayed the last of the anti-abortion Democrats holding out, toward voting for the bill. However, there is a shell-game here in that the language may not appear in the final bill at all.
Democrat Charlie Rangel, the tax cheat, says that would be an ethics violation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwv7zS3utPQ&feature=player_embedded
It is ironic that a man under investigation for violating ethics laws due to various tax complaints made against him would say that making a guarantee of his word would be in violation of ethics laws. Rangel reveals in the video that the goal is to see to the wishes of the Democratic majority in the House, not the American people. Meaning? Pelosi put forth a BS amendment to guarantee she would get her 218 votes.
Here is what we got in last night’s vote:
1. Major tax increases during a recession.
2. $500B in future Medicare cuts that will NEVER happen. We know this because we already have legislation to limit Medicare payouts. And every year, Congress has declined to let the cuts go into effect.
3. The tax increases and (alleged) budget cuts take effect immediately, while the benefits don't start until 2013, while other associated costs are moved into separate bills; pure slight-of-hand to get the 10-year budget projection to be deficit-neutral.
4. No tort reform, so malpractice insurance and defensive medicine costs will continue to be a major problem. (the Dems have to protect the trial lawyer lobby.)
5. Guaranteed issue combined with weak penalties in the individual mandate means the young and healthy that don't want to give up 8% of their income for insurance they don't need will just pay the fine, knowing that if they DO get seriously ill, THEN they'll get insurance to cover the treatment. If they survive, they can safely drop their coverage again (if they don't survive, they will also be dropping their coverage). You think premiums are high now? Just wait 'till THIS feces hits the fan!
6. The Public Option -- to "keep insurance companies honest". Implicit taxpayer backing means artificially-low premiums; private insurers that have to actually balance their budgets will not be able to compete. Meanwhile businesses that currently provide insurance to their employees will find it cheaper to drop their current plans and dump everyone onto the government plan.
a) This wrecks Obama's promise that if you like your current insurance you can keep it.
b) It will drive private insurance out of business, leading to government-only insurance. Single-payer here we come!
c) The Federal budget is already groaning under the weight of massive entitlement spending. Please explain how adding another huge, new entitlement is an improvement!
7. Right now, many doctors are refusing to take new Medicare patients because the payouts don't even cover the costs of treatment. When government controls all physician payouts and extends the Medicare approach to everyone, expect two things to happen:
1. First, there will be a LOT fewer doctors.
2. Second, those that remain will be forced to withhold treatments that they aren't going to be paid for. Since there's no tort reform, these physicians will then be sued more frequently, resulting in even fewer doctors.
And don’t forget that illegals still have a way in, as do government-funded abortions.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/8/2009 9:08:15 AM
Message:
This is so telling, ever the campaigner: "Shortly after the(health care) bill's passage, the president sent out an e-mail solicitation asking for donations to the Organizing for America, saying "the coming days will put our efforts to the ultimate test. Winning will require each of us to give everything we can, starting right now."
Name: Frank
Email: frankmary3@yahoo.cm
Date: 11/7/2009 8:27:54 PM
Message:
Join my yahoo group site. JasperGaTroops Christmas items need for troops
Name: Marine
Email: marine1
Date: 11/7/2009 7:57:57 PM
Message:
Interseting that George & Laura Bush spent quite a long time at Fort Hood, consoling soldiers and Obie didn't even go.
Name: Frank
Email: frankmary3@yahoo.com
Date: 11/6/2009 9:25:49 PM
Message:
Current Wish List for Care Packages:
support ribbon
* Cold drink mixes – Gatorade, Crystal Lite, Kool Aid or the individual flavor straws you add to bottled water
* Ground Coffee (not instant) and hot tea. Coffee creamer and sugar packets too!
* Power Bars, cereal bars, trail mix, granola bars and healthy snacks ramen Noodle packs (the big cups are hard to pack and limit what we can fit in the packages)
* Slim Jims, Beef or Turkey Jerky
* Sunflower Seeds & Nuts
* Individual snacks like chips, crackers, cookies, cheese/cracker kits
* Peanut Butter & Jelly – small size plastic jars please
* Small sewing kits and manicure kits
* Sunscreen and insect repellent, Chap Stick with sunscreen, Carmex, Blistex
* Body wash mens and ladies
* Shampoo - mens and ladies
* Toothbrushes only, NO toothpaste
* Deodorant
* Foot Powder and foot cream for athlete's foot
* Odor Eaters (for boots), Dr. Scholl's foot pads, blister pads
* Hand Sanitizer - small size bottles to carry with them
* Shave cream – non-aerosol only and good razors
* Mens and Ladies underwear in sizes Small, Med, Large
* Mens and Ladies calf high socks or boot socks in black or white.
We can pick up or you can drop off
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/6/2009 5:38:53 PM
Message:
Old nerd,
First, I want to commend you on your readings on the Quran. I don’t remember challenging you on that, but good show just the same. Actually, the Quran is not an evil, hate-filled book. It is just the opposite. The basic teachings reinforce doctrine in our own Bible: tolerance, Love, forgiveness, peace. The problem we face with fundamentalism is that it goes against the basic principles the Quran teaches. As I assume you know from your research, Sharia law and the precept of eliminating infidels is not inherent of traditional Islamic teachings.
Having said that, I would remind you that many wars have been fought in the name of God. I’m a Christian, as the majority of us are in this country. We have been taught, over many years that we have to be tolerant of Islam and other religions, though our country was founded as a Christian nation. The political correctness movement has mandated that we not only be tolerant, but be overtly accepting of people’s personal social/political situation. The result is that people can’t blink without being forced to bend themselves for the sake of someone’s beliefs no matter what form they take. Why do you think so many minorities flock to Islam? Because there is an assumption of protection: an implied racial/religious minority grouping that the enlightened body of society cannot deny “rights” to. Just look to how many blacks are practicing Muslims in our prisons. This is just fact.
Now fast-forward to the 21st century. Under the protection of political correctness, radical Muslims have enjoyed the freedom to expand their community. There are parts of Europe that have been settled by tens of thousands of Muslims, which is not really an issue until you understand how they do it. They settle into large communities, change the name of the schools, and deny entrance to “outsiders”. They institute Sharia law, based on assumed protection of religeous freedom. Since they do not abort their numbers grow. If their offspring become too westernized, they kill them. They do not apologize for this. The real and “right now” intent of these people is reflected here:
“We will use your democracy to destroy your democracy.” –Muslim cleric Omar Bakri Mohammed
This guy in Texas repeatedly and openly expressed his opinion that the US is the aggressor in the ME and it is OK for them to kill us. He openly considered our presence in the ME as a “war on Islam”. Now, I have to laugh here because in an age where we can’t have prayer in school (and teachers get arrested for saying a prayer at a school luncheon) yet we are so thoughtful and comforting when it comes to the issue of freedom to practice Islam where the ONLY terrorist activity in the world today is being executed by Islamic people.
People, we have to get our priorities straight. It starts with us, right here.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 11/6/2009 4:57:40 PM
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by the way NonVet - you assuming that you are entitled to any kind of response from me or anyone who has a brain was hysterically funny. that was the most I have ever laughed at an internet message board posting. Kudos to comedy!!!
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 11/6/2009 4:55:28 PM
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Robot - no I didn't read the poll, I was just noting your claim, spewed earlier, that "moderates" and "liberals" are the same thing. so now you say you were wrong about that. which begs the question: do you always know you are wrong and are just out here trolling?...and I would also guess that most of these "conservatives" are not radical extremist right wingnuts like yourself. if you break out the issues, polls consistently show the majority of Americans favor single payer healthcare, woman's right to choose, public transportation, interracial marriage, affirmative action, etc.
NonVet - "just for gins"? youre going to give me bottles of gin just for telling you some accurate news sources? lets see the gin first - you are not trustworthy. no source is consistently the most accurate - its just all about detecting the BS that's in every news reprot and sorting it out from the facts. which is not that hard to do if you don't have a pre-set idea of what you want the news to be. I don't base my perception of reality on what some passionate douchebag (like Charles Craphammer) makes up off the top of his head. but I don't expect you to understand this, so please call names, whine, moan, cry, fear, etc. and the racism thing is undeniable. obama is more conservative than most white politicians, but you extremists insist on blaming him for everything that is bad or "liberal." there is no explanation for such irrational hysteria other than racism...
Name: NamVet
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Date: 11/6/2009 4:17:38 PM
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Old Gaurd: You totally lost me with your ????? not sure what your driving at here?? Are you suggesting we deserve this war?
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/6/2009 4:15:04 PM
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It is just laughable that Nancy Pelosi has inspired so many liberals on how to twist the November elections into a Democrat victory! Instead of revisiting their policies, they try to alter reality. Moderates voted conservative, the folks who were mobilized during the 08 elections stayed home and sat this one out. The honeymoon is over, but someone should tell Obama. He was too busy watching his HBO documentary about... him to be aprised of the returns. I'm sure he was. He campaigned in NJ what, 6 times? And he wasn't concerned about the outcome? You have to be kidding me. He gets it, and he is scared.
Name: Old Guard
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Date: 11/6/2009 4:14:03 PM
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Rob,
If we go by the "exclusion method" you describe we would have no military at all.
List of Exclusions Possible:
Religion
Sex
Race
Sexual Orientation
Nationality
Physical Structure
Every one of these has been used over the centuries to exclude people from serving but are now illegal to do so by the Supreme Court of the US. Perhaps we can strike the First Ammendment and form a camp for all the outspoken among us?
Now thats Communism under the red fatherland?
Right Comrade Rob?
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 11/6/2009 4:10:08 PM
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Jack....I didn't mean to imply Donnie shouldn't follow his alloted budget. I think the people will say to stick with the budget. I even think Donnie probably knows this. I just think it's refreshing he's willing to discuss it with the taxpayers...especially when an elections not coming up.
Name: Old Guard
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Date: 11/6/2009 4:03:40 PM
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Actually Rob,
I have done research and I do understand the Islamic religion. (No Bubba, I'm not a muslim) History tells us what to expect and how to expect it to be done. "Those who forget the past, re-live the past."
This is but one citation of past events in the middle east but with a surprise. Who do you think was the agressor in this battle?
Fulk of Chartres recalled that… “many fled to the roof of the temple of Solomon, and were shot with arrows, so that they fell to the ground dead. In this temple almost ten thousand were killed. Indeed, if you had been there you would have seen our feet colored to our ankles with the blood of the slain. But what more shall I relate? None of them were left alive; neither women nor children were spared”
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter. (Quran 5:33)
…fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression and there prevail justice and faith in Allah… (Quran 2:193)
Name: NamVet
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Date: 11/6/2009 3:54:38 PM
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Couldn't agree with you more Rob. Political Correctness has no place in a war.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 11/6/2009 3:52:42 PM
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Rob...Couldn't agree with you more on political correctness. It's being abused if you ask me. When we call an illegal immigrant an undocumented visitor it's just plain wrong. Being polite only goes so far. The fact that a Muslim officer did the shooting should upset people. Racial profiling, religious profiling, call it what you want....Why is this wrong? Seems like good 'ol common sense to me.
Name: NamVet
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Date: 11/6/2009 3:31:17 PM
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Pinto: Just for gins.... Can you name one news source, any person..anything that you would consider a reliable source of news or information?
I don't want any nonsense from you just name anyone or any source if you would please. I really don't think you can to be honest. I think you attack anything and anyone just for the enjoyment of it. So here's your chance and I'll wait to see what you name.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/6/2009 1:46:00 PM
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The bottom line on my beliefs regarding these muslims in military service, is that we cannot be surprised when one decides to kill innocent people in God's name. How many people have to die like this before we stop being polite and politically correct about the situation? When a soldier changes out of his Thobe and into his greens, it matters, and warrants some investigation. Damn being polite. When you read, and understand what the ultimate islamic mission on this continent and the world is, politeness goes out the window. Who will be next?
Name: NamVet
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Date: 11/6/2009 1:24:13 PM
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Ed. Good for you, mine is next. I am canceling some insurance from the AARP and dumping them forever. My wife is doing the same and so are the people I work with. Let them do whatever they want as long as it does not involve me.
Pinto... you are here this morning? I thought that was you last night in Texas. Also, there you go again using "black People" to make your point which means you have nothing to back yourself up other than being a racist. And picking on Rob again only shows he knows his stuff or you seem to take a shine to him.....ewwwww poor Rob. I guess people like you have to have someone to admire after taking all those meds... as creepy as you are.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 11/6/2009 1:22:19 PM
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Old Nards,
No matter what you call it, assault or otherwise,we took care of our own problem children.
The problem is, this nutjob who killed 13 soldiers yesterday on their own post is a radical muslim. Political correctness allowed for this wacko to be there yesterday, yell Allahu Akbar and fire 45 shots into a crowd of innocent people. If we stop tip-toeing around the fact that these people are potential murderers maybe we can prevent more of this. This guy was outspoken about the US being the criminal, JUST LIKE YOU.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 11/6/2009 1:16:32 PM
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Pinto, you are mentally ill. Get help now.
You didn't read the poll, which is only one of all polls that show more people are conservative, you just shot from the hip as usual.
"As is typical in recent years, Republicans are far more unified in their political outlook than are either independents or Democrats. While 72% of Republicans in 2009 call their views conservative, independents are closely split between the moderate and conservative labels (43% and 35%, respectively). Democrats are about evenly divided between moderates (39%) and liberals (37%)."
The "moderates" voted for the republicans on Tuesday. You don't have a leg to stand on, you are absolutely flat wrong. Get help!
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 11/6/2009 1:15:10 PM
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Pinto....Help me out wise one. If the conservatives hate Obama because he's black. It's pretty safe to assume that some liberals are rascist. How exactly did Obama get elected?
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 11/6/2009 12:22:32 PM
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Charles Craphammer, as usual, presents not one single fact to back up his assertions of fantasy. those lines Robot posted could just as easily have been lifted from a fiction book about King Arthur or the bible, as from Mr. Craphammer. IT's an interesting point he makes, but there is no reality-based explanation for it, especially considering the republicans who won are moderates, showing that even the republican party is moving and has to move to the left if they want to win. hence, the idea that "conservatism is dead."
about that gallup poll - I thought "moderates" and "liberals" are the same thing? If so, liberals far outnumber conservatives, even in the poll that Robot cited. by about 55 to 40 percent? thats a pretty big margin Robot. get back in your bomb shelter, its still not safe to come out.
there is nothing a black president can do right to you bigots. if there had been no bailout, more teachers would be laid off, property taxes would be even higher, more county city and state employees laid off, etc. and you "conservatives" would be complaining the black president should have done a bailout. with a bailout, unemployment slows down but continues to rise, some people still get laid off, and it's the black president's fault because he signed a bailout. do I smell even more hypocrisy?
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