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Name: Jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 9/23/2009 12:31:50 PM
Message:
Now on to some real issues. Rob,Nam Vet...Have you ever heard Dr. Krauthammer's views on Obama? Pretty scary. If he's right, and several democrats are starting to agree with him, we are in big trouble if we don't get Obama out of office.
Name: Jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 9/23/2009 12:23:47 PM
Message:
Cursing Mommy...the real issue with getting rid of the school board is getting someone to run against them. In the last election I don't recall anyone running against any of the board members. I can tell a funny story a teacher told me. Teachers were recently required to sit through an ethics meeting. They were preached to that even having a drink on your own front porch could look bad. Our school Superintendant used to work in Fannin County. Ask some people why he is no longer there. It wasn't drinking. So do our school officials really believe that a teacher of legal drinking age enjoying a cold beer on their own property is less ethical than say a married man who is having an affair. Many teachers found this amusing.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/23/2009 12:21:28 PM
Message:
Cursing Mommy, if you voted for SPLOST I don't see your beef. You agreed to it, the projects were very well advertised, and we built it.
If you think it is easy to juggle scheduling for all of these sports requirements, as well as the gym's other uses you really should become involved and see how it really works.
If you are upset about the economy, like most of us are, your beef is really with the federal government.
Where were you when the conversation I started about the AD's $103,000 salary was a focus? Budgets are approved long before contracts expire. Have you voiced your concerns to the school board? Mind you, you should research things before you address people with profanity. PHS is actually a pretty small high school by today's standards. The common facilities were downsized due to budget issues during initial construction, so SPLOST was approved by the taxpayers to fix this problem. The gym doesn't even have air conditioning. Don't wait until the building gets its C of O before you start to complain. This plan wasn't voted on while we were sleeping, it was extremely public. That's democracy, if you voted for it, you own it.
I know a lot of teachers very well, actually. They aren't often in a jam for resources they need to teach our kids. They are in the computer lab today, actually. There are laptops, desktops, smart boards, you name it.
The school board is far from responsible for the economy, but they do respond to it: to wit, teachers and admin must now take furloughs. This is a pretty significant pay cut for these people who really barely get by. If you have real evidence that board members squandered tax money I would LOVE to hear it.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/23/2009 12:15:15 PM
Message:
Cursing Mommy, I sorta wonder about the SPLOST as well as tax increases. MY property tax has just about doubled in the last 5 years or so. This on top of a SPLOST. I remember growing up and all the services the city provided with our Property tax dollars. Now you can't even get a pot hole filled in the streets. Jasper is growing, taxes should be increasing yet it isn't enough. There are other things that need attention besides schools. Naybe the whole darn budget needs to be looked at again???
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/23/2009 11:32:16 AM
Message:
Gerd,
Nobody threatened you. You are paranoid. I have repeatedly told to it is dangerous to lure someone from the internet into a potentially violent and potentially criminal situation. And I certainly don’t rely on my opinions to be formed based on what the government says, I don’t know where you get that but nobody really cares how your brain works. It is fascinating how proud you are to be a progressive. That is the cult movement whose mission is to destroy capitalism. Knowing your affiliation only reinforces your kookiness.
Progressivism is not much more than a liberal who doesn’t like the negative connotation of the word. I believe you must, then conform to the beliefs of other progressives as they believe:
“In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.” -Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day (1970)
“This global cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people. If it continues and no strong action is taken, it will cause world famine, world chaos and world war, and this could all come about before the year 2000”-Lowell Ponte in The Cooling (1976)
“We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of six-year-old children to Asian brothels.”-Carl Amery, German Greens
Gerd, I am too smart to be lured into a fight with you. I drive a tan 2-door Blazer with veteran tags. If you ever approach me and cause me to defend myself, I certainly would, and I will see you prosecuted for your actions. You are getting into some dangerous territory Mr. Ellison, or whoever you are. Verbal jousting in a discussion board is one thing, taking the next step may earn you some nice criminal charges.
Name: Cursing Mommy
Email: pH**U.com
Date: 9/23/2009 11:29:31 AM
Message:
I'm with Melissa, we need more conversation on local f-ing issues. I saw where the safety day was re-scheduled. I guess that's too bad I wouldn't go to the damn thing anyway. Nothing against cops or anything, but just better [deleted] things for me to do on a weekend. Rob, I appreciate your response. And I voted for that g-d SPLOST. But now regret it due to the fact that those [deleted] on the school board have squandered the money. If I'm not mistaken I read in the f-ing Progress that part of the property tax increase is where the einsteins on the school board didn't anticipate the economic downturn and overcommitted on the SPLOST projects and had to make it up with our property tax dollars.
Also just look at the numbers, you cite four b-ball teams, 2 volleyball and four PE classes. Assuming the PE classes use the gym only during school day and the other six teams only use it after school, tha's six teams in one gym, any f-ing [deleted] can schedule that and in any gd event, you don't build a multi-million gym to accommadate fewer than 100 students.
One other things those lying [deleted] on the school board aren't forthcoming about is that the enrollment hasn't grown as much as they aniticipated even back when they were preparing for rapid growth. In fact enrollment is mostly flat for the past five or six years. So the idea that they need new facilities for a growing student body is total BS. Finally, how many of you taxpaying business owners wish we could have sprung for a nice spiffy new and massive central office during these times, justlike the board bought for their top personnel.
Actually this is finally. Go ask any teacher if they feel they have the educational technology they need such as projectors, computers and software? The answer is no. But we do have two gyms. [Deleted}
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/23/2009 10:55:11 AM
Message:
Melissa, Thank you for the disturbing intervention you posted. I don’t remember saying anything to you that could be defined as a challenge. You have not let me down, though-you have just reinforced what we have heard from Pinto and the others like him. You start with a feeding frenzy of hateful jabs at me, then flow right into a plea for everyone to stop taking sides and get along. Your friend Chooch was very vocal about his right to speak his mind, and he did… a lot. Apparently the rest of us don’t qualify for that kind of freedom. Kind of a double standard isn’t it?
As far as my ID, I told 3 people who I am. I remain convinced of my original feelings on who is spreading that information. I asked him to please respect my wishes on that but my mistake was assuming that which I would do for someone would be reciprocated. In any case, good for you and the rest of the detectives for “outing” me. Schoolyard BS? My dear, I don’t have the patent on that, you and Gerd are doing quite well with BS yourselves. If you don’t like my politics, don’t read my posts. You have the power to tune me out, instead of falling into the pot/kettle trap.
You know, some people do enjoy political discussion. If you don’t, do not participate. Talk about your own interests. Do that instead of using an angry rant to divert the conversation to safety day. I’m a bit more concerned with the direction my country is heading. Best of luck to you.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/23/2009 10:25:32 AM
Message:
Melissa, Glad you have some views about local things to share with us sometime. I hope to hear about them. As far as Obama, I didn't vote for him, do not like his agenda for this country and in fact I firmly believe he is, at best, a socialist. I did not fight for my country to be quiet and watch it be taken over by a socialist. I, for one, will not be quiet about the direction of this country if I feel it is wrong. It is a right to speak out and I plan to continue until I check out. I hope Rob and everyone else continues to speak their thoughts as well. This is, after all, America.
Name: Jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 9/23/2009 10:21:29 AM
Message:
Melissa...This may suprise you but Obama and his policies effect Jasper. The great thing about this country is the fact that we can question/debate what our president is doing. I respect that he is the president that does not mean I have to agree with what he's doing or even respect him. The fact is nothing seems to be happening in Jasper lately aside from the rain. What can you possibly discuss about Safety Day? I can guarantee if anything of importance happens in Jasper it gets discussed on here.
Name: melissa gillette
Email: Melissagillette07@yahoo.com
Date: 9/23/2009 8:07:59 AM
Message:
Funny how fingers point to Chooch right away when ever someone doesn't get their way or things are said that make someone feel small ( and I am not talking about height). Hey Rob, why would you think Chooch told Guard who you are, how do you know it wasn't me. You think because you hide behind a computer that your identity is a big mystery? If you feel this is the case you are sadly mistaken. There are a lot of people who know who you are and how you like to run your mouth when you aren't eye to eye, face to face with someone, like a real man or woman might do. Enjoy your little keyboard fingering and grow up. I am sick and tired of the attitudes that run rampant on this board. Just because some one does not agree with you does not mean they are wrong! That goes for EVERYONE. People are entitled to their opinions and this school yard BS is getting old. Rob, in my OPINION you are an A$$. You may not like it but it doesn’t make me wrong, why? Because it is my opinion. Marine has started acting like a real man and not playing these damn games. Old Guard you need to take a lesson from Marine. Pinto, you have interesting points of views but people really don’t understand where you are coming from. Ed, well you are just Ed and you know my thoughts on that. Me I know I am a Bi##H. I was raised that way, and proud of it. My point being, this is a message board, not an arguing board. Put your political views outside, and wipe your feet when you come in. Everyone knows people are not going to change their political party just because someone on this board argued with them. PLEASE people lets move on and stop the games. I like to hear what is going on in my community not this Obama did or didn’t do crap. I didn’t vote for him, I don’t like him, but dammit he is my President and I am at least going to give the man the respect he deserves. I am going to give him a chance. I was the only one who posted about Safety Day. Why did no one else care about the community? Why are people not discussing the newest issues with the town? Because it is more entertaining to slam each other for their political views? Please people get real.
I will be awaiting the next round of insults directed at me. I could really care less what you think of me, because I am an adult and name calling doesn't hurt my feelings. So go ahead and direct your anger at me so we can all move on and start talking and doing for the community.
Name: Old Guard
Email:
Date: 9/22/2009 5:13:51 PM
Message:
Rob,
Chooch did not but someone else did. You have other people who know who you are and do tell.
Sir, If you are going to threaten me then at least say it to my face rather than hiding behind this keyboard. That is why no one is afraid of you or Ed
By the way I'm not a liberal but a progressive. I do not rely on what I am told to think and do not rely on my government, as it is, to frame my mind or thoughts. That would be called communism.
Name: Marine
Email: marine1
Date: 9/22/2009 5:10:02 PM
Message:
Old Gerd??? Too funny! Better watch out, Rob, he's making threats again, (but shhh, not to sound threatening.)..LOL
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/22/2009 4:38:23 PM
Message:
Guard, obviously chooch has revealed to you who I am. So he violated the trust I once had in him as a vet. I am sorry to see how little value he places on that virtue.
So if you know who I am, good for you. I'm sure most people would have bigger things to concern themselves with, but whatever gets you through the night.
I'll remind you that coaxing someone out from a web discussion board is dangerous business. A man of your advanced maturity should know that.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/22/2009 4:33:39 PM
Message:
NamVet, property taxes are indeed going up. There was an article in the Progress on this, the link may still be up. Revenue is down, budget is basically flat-lined and being cut as we speak.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/22/2009 4:32:18 PM
Message:
And your still a clown Bozo....lipstick an all, your still Bozo.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/22/2009 4:32:07 PM
Message:
Cursing Mommy, I do appreciate you stopping by to spread your sunshine around. To explain this a little, the additions to PHS were paid for by SPLOST funds, that the voting public approved. This is the only high school in the county, and its facilities were simply too small. Especially as compared with surrounding schools. For example, the gym was built too small to support 4 basketball teams, 2 volleyball teams, 4 PE classes, etc. The county could not host volleyball tournaments since the gym was too small for 2 nets. The school actually makes money from these tournaments. Storage for these sports was also deleted from the scope. The band room was too small for 200 kids plus instruments. There was no dance room, and the auditorium was also too small to fit the student body.
Next time, vote. This funding has nothing to do with the district operating budget, which comes mostly from our property taxes. This issue has been discussed in the recent past.
I hope this helps, enjoy your cocktail.
Name: BillyBob
Email: USA
Date: 9/22/2009 3:42:22 PM
Message:
Pinto, you sanctimonious bastard! As a comic entertainer (i.e., clown) and a voice over professional, I would expect you to have more respect for cartoons. I bet bills would get read more often and thoroughly (by both parties) in a colorful picture book / cartoon format. It would probably get the youth of today more involved in the political process, too.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/22/2009 3:34:51 PM
Message:
Why did they say our property taxes are going to take a big jump??? I didn't catch the details and the why??
Is it to pave more roads that need it??
If we keep approving SPLOST after watching our property taxes get spent on things that aren't needed then who is at fault?? I say stop voting for more Taxes and the people that want them. Let's start right here at home and fix this mess.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/22/2009 2:59:17 PM
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Don't care what party your in...looking towards Mass. When a Republican Gov. was in office the state senate voted to make a replacement for senate and congress go before a vote of the people. Now that a Dem. is the Gov. the senate votes to allow the Gov. to pick a replacement senator.
This is how the government does whatever they damn well please. The best part is the people...they let it happen. If you don't like your taxes going up, your government doing as they please...VOTE THEM OUT!!! Just that simple folks.
Name: Old Guard
Email:
Date: 9/22/2009 2:57:30 PM
Message:
Rob,
Your wrong. I just shovel back the same BS I have thrown at me.
You will glad to know that I have been told who you are and I hope we can meet one day very soon. No threat intended but when we do I hope you have the same attitude as you do behind the kerboard. It will make a great conversation face-to-face.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/22/2009 2:21:35 PM
Message:
If you guys have been following the white house conference call with the NEA over Obama using federal funds through the NEA to lobby health care reform,(a violation of federal law) notice these clowns are affiliated with Rock the Vote (http://www.rockthevote.com/), among other groups. These guys are committed to Obama and are selling things like this to children:
http://www.cafepress.com/rockthevote.403153014
These srt industry nuts are groundlessly promoting government health care and sell t-shirts that say,
"I care about partying! I care about health! Why won't the government cover my ass?"
And people wonder why we want these folks out of our schools and away from our kids.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 9/22/2009 2:12:08 PM
Message:
Robot - no, you're still an idiot. baucus put that thing about illegals in the bill because political pressure works, and he is a coward. the chairman of the Republican Caucus just said his sole criteria for voting yes on any bill is its length. he said he won't be in favor of any bil that is more than 6 pages long, unless it has lots of funny and colorful pictures in it.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/22/2009 12:33:42 PM
Message:
I thought I would lighten things up around here, air the place out and brush out the cobwebs. I have to share this story I just found...
One day a fourth grade teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living. All the typical answers came up -- fireman, mechanic, businessman, salesman, doctor, lawyer, and so forth.
However, little Justin was being uncharacteristically quiet, so when the teacher prodded him about his father, he finally replied, “My father's an exotic dancer in a gay cabaret and takes off all his clothes in front of other men and they put money in his underwear. Sometimes, if the offer is really good, he will go home with some guy and stay with him all night for money.”
The teacher, obviously shaken by this statement, hurriedly set the other children to work on some exercises and then took little Justin aside to ask him, 'Is that really true about your father?'
'No', the boy said, 'He actually works for the Democratic National Committee and helped get Barack Obama elected President last year, but I was too embarrassed to say that in front of the class.'
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/22/2009 12:24:55 PM
Message:
As expected, Bertha Lewis has hired a domocrat lawyer, head of the government watchdog group Common Cause to conduct her "independant review" of Acorn. One of Common Cause's reform issues is to prevent voter ID laws: " Stopping Passage of Onerous Voter Identification Laws. Overly restrictive voter ‘identification ‘ laws in a number of states have had the intended or unintended effect of keeping eligible Americans - most often the elderly, minority, and low-income citizens - from voting in the name of fraud prevention."
So a lawyer for one 501c group auditing another. Don't be fooled, these two know each other very well, and claim rights to many of the same lofty causes, if not a more formal relationship affiliation. I believe this is an attempt my Bertha to get their books in line preceeding any DoJ investigation.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/22/2009 11:45:33 AM
Message:
Jeep, I saw that video on YouTube. Cong. Mike Rogers is absolutely right. Here is another speech he made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlHxPqC0_Fc
These points are exactly dead on accurate. In this case they were passing HR3200, the insanely vast government health care bohemouth that would create 33 seperate huge government burocracies. Remember the 1000+ page document that the liberals just fell in love with, with all that unfunded programing. If you recall the debate surrounding the illegal immigrant coverage issue, how there was no provision to validate legal residency... I recall being called every name in the book over that issue. Magically, that provision has appeared in Chairman Baucus' health reform bill. I guess we weren't such idiots after all? Maybe?
But the Baucus bill doesn't go far enough for the liberals. There is no public option. And still it costs almost a trillion dollars. It does, however include an excise tax (that the president wants you to call a "responsibility fee" of up to $3500. Or is it $3800... hard to keep track of how much we will increase our debt.
Yes, there is much "mis-communication" going on. Obama can't even define the word tax.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/22/2009 11:21:15 AM
Message:
Old Gerd, You are just like every one of the two-faced liberals that preceded you. You engage people with whom you don't agree, using whatever tactic and twisted rhetoric you can muster and lace it with hate-filled language and veiled threats. Then when someone calls you on it, you snag the line and set the hook. You have done nothing but BS your way through to stir people up enough to take your bait, allowing you to create more and more drama for your amusement. You are just a liberal wordsmith, a revisionist, and should anyone forget-a fraud. It is just a matter of time before you lose your mind and spiral into angry diatribes and manifestos just like our friend Chooch did.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 9/22/2009 10:31:28 AM
Message:
Rob...I think the politically correct term is a "mis-communication". The word "Lie" is very offensive to the liberals.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 9/22/2009 10:28:32 AM
Message:
Check out Congressman Mike Roger's addressing congress on healthcare. (it's on youtube) He makes some very valid points. My favorite is his quote of Abraham Lincolns-"You can't make a weak man strong by making a strong man weak". Now if only Obama could understand this logic.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 9/22/2009 10:20:08 AM
Message:
Cursing Mommy...I see why you need those vodka and tonics! Some Valium may help as well. Still you make some good points on our taxes. Our Board really does need to wake up. You want a real good laugh than read some of the Boards motto's. One of them is educating our children in a fiscally responsible manner. Think of all the money that could have been spent on educating our children instead of building new and un-needed buildings. Did you notice all the un-needed administrators that were laid off with the teachers due to the budget.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/22/2009 9:09:30 AM
Message:
I agree cursing mommy. I hope everyone remembers who is raising these taxes for things that are not necessary next time we vote. It is our fault for electing them. Remember...I will
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/21/2009 6:06:25 PM
Message:
If it looks like a tax, smells like a tax... falls under the "excise Tax" section of the Baucus health care bill, IT'S A TAX!!! Mr. President, you do indeed lie! Enough!
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/21/2009 4:21:20 PM
Message:
Pinto, that was some speech there, comrade. Nobody has professed to hate the government, to my knowledge. In fact, I could probably say without fear that we are quite happy with the representative republic we have had since 1776. The fact that we can criticize it without threat of retribution is very uncommon. Now your socialist, Marxist anti-capitalism bullshit is something I do find offensive. For the record, in 2003-2005 I was working 18 hour days... participating in capitalism but I have been conservative and American all my life.
Please consider my earlier advice on you moving to Cuba. Your brand of psychosis is growing old here.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/21/2009 4:18:06 PM
Message:
Could be it's too hot in the kitchen.
"When liberals don't feel that the political winds are blowing in their direction, not only will they generally avoid discussing the things they believe, they will typically deny that they believe them at all."
This rings a bell....
"Liberals continue to support dysfunctional policies that have been failing miserably for decades and why they often oppose common sense programs that have been proven to work time and time again -- because it isn't about whether it works or not, it's about how it makes them feel."
Name: Cursing Mommy
Email: PH**U.com
Date: 9/21/2009 3:58:17 PM
Message:
Usually at about this time of the evening I must begin making dinner. My hubby and the kids will be home soon. Fortunately, however, tonight is Make Your Own [deleted] Dinner Night, a recently instituted family ritual, so I have time to take you F-ing losers to task for wasing all your time on this F-ing board. Look, it used to be interesting when someone with half a [deleted] brain would comment on something that I couldn't hear on Fox News while drinking my [deleted] vodka tonic while waiting to make dinner. You [deleted] people need to tell me something I don't know. All you do is regurgitate the damn conservative network gossip. I'm mad as hell about this tax increase getting rammed down our throats by the school bored (and I didn't mis-spell that's the word I wanted). Build a damn palace for the administrators right beside the elementary and then raise our taxes claiming you ain't got enough money to finish the job there. And why do our kids need two gyms at the high school and an elementary. How stupid do you think we are, like we won't [deleted] notice two gyms that our tax dollars funding at the same school? What are you going to do have two basketball teams that have to practice at the same [section deleted] time. I guess we are pretty [deleted] stupid. No one has raised enough hell about those idiotic extra gyms. But come election time, there may be a change coming.
Name: Old Guard
Email:
Date: 9/21/2009 2:57:37 PM
Message:
Rob,
Your post, with such "kind" words, about Chooch departing this board are exactly what I was talking about. You are a smart ass, arrogant, pompous windbag.
Why are you such a smart ass to everyone?
Did someone kill your dog when you were little?
I hope you can get help with this anger problem and find some peace and karma in your life before you die and find the smoldering gates of hades.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 9/21/2009 2:31:50 PM
Message:
Rant Casey...You think Pinto is a prophet and artist? Interesting! I've heard him called many things but that's a first.
Name: Mr. Mojo Risin
Email:
Date: 9/21/2009 1:55:59 PM
Message:
All I know is that there is the Known and the Unknown and in between are the Doors.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 9/21/2009 12:00:44 PM
Message:
Robot, jeep, ButtBob, NonVet and everyone else who proclaims to hate the govt even though they wouldnt be alive today without it: where o where were you from about 2001 to 2008, when the congress and president presided over the biggest exspansion of govt this country has ever seen? an expansion that makes FDR look like an anarchist? all this hatred and anger could have been directed at the origin of the problem, instead of trying to contain the catastrophe we are living in now. and don't use the tired old excuse that all the other republicans use - "well we believed all the president's lies." Robot - you are excused, as you have already mentioned you were doing more important things like building roller coasters. or maybe it wouldnt have made much difference - your projections of hatred and anger now are obviously only strenthening the liberals, or the terrible big bad evil scary enemy. and jeep (I know, I know, its a waste of my breath) there is a big difference *opinions* and assertions of *fact*. you compare this long list of *opinions* and label those said by repupblicans or capitalists as *fact* and those said by democrats as *lies* - what you are doing is worse than being a liar.
Name: Rant Casey
Email: chuck@Palahniuk.com
Date: 9/21/2009 11:59:14 AM
Message:
Billybob, Rob, even Pinto, like other prophets and artists tend to be liminal and marginal people, "edgemen" who strive with a passionate sincerity to rid themselves of the cliches associated with status incumbency and role playing and to enter into vital relations with other thinkers, such as NamVet, in fact and imagination.
Name: Ed Jones Jr.
Email: sargon1@windstream.net
Date: 9/21/2009 11:58:24 AM
Message:
TO: Bob Hayles ,
You are so right , I always thought there was someone in the background pushing his buttons , I just didn't know who . I wonder if he will really stay away this time , maybe he went to rehab and will re-emerge under a different name . The only downside to all of this is that it leaves us with Pinto Bean , himself a certified loon . Oops , I forgot about the Old Fart , aka Old Guard . So I guess that leaves us at least two to bounce our radical ideas off of . Life is still good !
Name: Bob Hayles
Email: roberthayles@windstream.net
Date: 9/21/2009 11:51:17 AM
Message:
Jeep...thanks for the props, but I'm probably unelectable at any level, national, state, or even local. Have you forgotten my little escapade with the school bus last year?
Name: Bob Hayles
Email: roberthayles@windstream.net
Date: 9/21/2009 11:44:33 AM
Message:
It's not about healthcare...it's not about the stimulus...it's about this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-lVuztIY&NR=1
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/21/2009 11:40:53 AM
Message:
I agree Jeep
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 9/21/2009 11:05:22 AM
Message:
NamVet...Jimmy Carter grew peanuts and was elected president. Bob Hayles is Jasper's peanut guy, maybe we should help him get elected to president. I'm betting he could do a better job than Carter or Obama!
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/21/2009 11:00:45 AM
Message:
I just had to do this, to illustrate how liberals accuse people of "twisting words" so artfully. Remember Saul Alinsky called Satan "the first community organizer. One of his teachings was to accuse your enemies of twisting their words.
This is an actual transcript! Below it is the video of the interview.
In the interview airing Sunday, George Stephanopoulos pressed the president on his plan to require people to purchase health insurance.
Stephanopoulos: "Under this mandate, the government is forcing people to spend money, fining you if you don't. How is that not a tax?" Obama : " No, but -- but, George, you -- you can't just make up that language and decide that that's called a tax increase."
(Stephanopoulos quotes Merriam-Webster dictionary for the definition of "tax")
Stephanopoulos: "I don't think I'm making it up. Merriam-Webster's dictionary: 'Tax, a charge, usually of money, imposed by authority on persons or property for public purposes,'"
Obama: "Pulling the dictionary out is a sign you are "stretching" a little." "No. That -- that's not true, George. The -- for us to say that you've got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase,"
Saul would be sooooo proud!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL7ak__MGyw
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 9/21/2009 10:58:05 AM
Message:
TALKING PTS-Congressman Wilson was rude, but correct. Our President is a liar!
1. At the Caterpillar factory in April, he said CEO Jim Owens told him; “if Congress passes our plan, this company will be able to rehire some of the folks who were just laid off.” Asked about this Owens said “I think realistically no. The truth is we’re going to have more layoffs.”
2. At his Town hall in New Hampshire , he said he “does not support single-payer” yet in a speech to the AFL he was video taped saying; “I happen to be a proponent of single payer.”
3. He repeatedly says the healthcare plan would not increase the deficit. Yet the independent Congressional Budget Office said it would increase the deficit by $239 billion.
4. Recently addressing the AFL, he said his opponents don't have their own plan. That's a lie. Congressman Price of Georgia has a 265 page bill, HR3400 that outlines the Republican plan. Because the mainstream media refuses to report it, does not mean it doesn't exist!
5. In July he said “the AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare.” When asked by ABC, an AARP official said the AARP hasn’t yet made up its mind as an organization whether to endorse the bill.
6. He has repeatedly said the healthcare bill was necessary to cover the 47 million Americans who do not have health insurance. That's a lie! Every study shows that figure includes 10-15 million Illegal Aliens. The number of Americans is around 30 million.
These are just a few of the provable lies Obama has told and does not even begin to list the deceitful statements he has made.
I don't generally like long posts but received this and thought it was worth posting.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/21/2009 10:07:13 AM
Message:
I wonder how soon the racism word will be used against people who deplore terrorism, and want this Zazi guy planted firmly in an electric chair for plotting to blow up Grand Central Station. Even though he did have plans and materials in his possession for building a bomb.
Name: Bob Hayles
Email: roberthayles@windstream.net
Date: 9/21/2009 10:05:48 AM
Message:
From Chooch, "Make no mistake about it. I am doing this because it is what is best for our cause according to my allies in these matters..."
Hmmm...and he claims to think for himself. That was an admission that he has others do his thinking, and direct his actions, for him. Typical liberal...cannot think or do without following other's orders...
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/21/2009 9:47:40 AM
Message:
Yes, Mr. Hayles... you are correct. That situation, Afghanistan, is way down on the list of importance. 10 million people need medical insurance or we will all die.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/21/2009 9:44:57 AM
Message:
My little left wing radical friend has decided to leave us, because we have not bowed to him. To him and his cadre of high-level political friends who admonished him for trying to convert us racist, Georgia idiots I say, "Don't go away mad... just go away."
Take with you some thoughts: nobody tried to change your mind here. You will just find it hard to peddle that government-state philosophy here, or anywhere. You are so passionate about social justice and widespread mediocrity that you sound like a loon. Remember, while you and your secret high-level political cohorts are shouting for the government to take control of every facet of our lives- that without the possibility of failure there can be no success. Some (people, corporations, organizations) will and should fail. Success is the result of hard work, not entitlement. Take your extremist views and your secret society of important-people politicos to another country where you will be accepted by frightened and oppressed people. Take Pinto with you while you're at it. Try Cuba, since you can already say adios, and seem to agree with Stalin and Alinsky. You would be much happier living out your twilight years among your favorite Marxists.
Stop embellishing? I am allowed commentary aren't I, or does that not fit the Marxist model.
I have apologized for every mistake I have made in my commentary. You call people racists, and flat out deny the truth, as in when you said Acorn does not receive taxpayer grants. But we are supposed to bow to your superior intellect and superhuman abilities to research? A little full of yourself, aren’t you?
Keep telling yourself that, remember that your cover is blown: you have destroyed your credibility by showing just what you are made of. You are an angry, scorned little man who is stomping his feet because he didn’t get his way. And you wonder why this behavior actually drives people away rather than anyone giving you respect for your views that you think you deserve so much.
So, adios Comrade Chooch. Dasvidania amigo! You'll be happier with your own kind.
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