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Name: Mtngirl
Email: joaninjasper@hotmail.com
Date: 9/30/2009 8:09:30 PM
Message:
I hope you all won't mind a tiny break in President bashing. :) :)
I read with interest the Letters to the Editor this week and saw a letter about the bad drivers on Cove Road. Could not agree more! One I have seen on a real regular basis is a black or charcoal gray car running the stop sign at Old Burnt Mtn. Always seems to come from the area of that church or office building.
The poster said tickets given on that road could bring in alot, I agree!
You may now continue your President bashing and yes, Carter was the worst. ;)
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/30/2009 6:12:49 PM
Message:
Well kids, this falls under the "are you serious" category but I think this guy is a poster child for the democrat party.
A Democratic congressman under fire for saying that Republicans want Americans to "die quickly" if they get sick fanned the flames further Wednesday by comparing the U.S. health care system to a "holocaust."
"I call upon all of us to do our jobs for the sake of America, for the sake of those dying people and their families," Florida Rep. Alan Grayson said on the House floor. "I apologize to the dead and their families that we haven't voted sooner to end this holocaust in America."
So health insurance companies are committing murder now? I know if someone is trying to kill me. I wouldn't give them money to help them do it. But that's just me.
Kooks like this are the problem in this country. They are everywhere, even right here among us in Pickens County. This perticular guy just squeeked by with Acorn's help--first term rep from Orlando, which is 60% republican. Don't worry about him, he's finished in Washington. But there are thousands of nuts like this for every one of him.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 9/30/2009 6:05:03 PM
Message:
Robot - numbskull. thank you for proving my point. (you always do that, without intending to) still no bill with private accounts, as you falsely said there was earlier. just more bush caving into public opinion. like Obama does. and thats my point - you keep crying about obama, but he doesn't do anything different than the bush. where were you then? no wonder everyone *thinks* you are a racist...
you are right for the first time, there are more important things going on. unfortunately for you one of those is not finding a job. good work.
to everyone - I have come to the conclusion that Robot msut be a Troll, because no one I have ever met or even seen on television is that stupid and easily manipulated. If he is a troll, that makes me a sucker. but it still doesn't explain why Robot, like a frightened puppy attached inseparably to its mother's teat, has asked the sheriff to investigate people who disagree with him...I thought he said he supported freedom? Robot, are you sure you served in the U.S. military, and not the Iraqi Republican Guard? you and Judge Hairy B@11s (also a republican guardsman) must be good friends.
fortunately for us, Robot is not very competent at anything, and probably doesn't know how, like real trolls, to to glean our real identities, financial info and ss numbers from this message board...
Name: Old Guard
Email:
Date: 9/30/2009 5:00:20 PM
Message:
Rob,
Little hard on the Padgett fellow aren't ya??
I wonder why? Can't answer the question without admitting Bush blew it on SS? I'm glad I invested for myself and didn't depend on SS.
Name: William Padgett
Email:
Date: 9/30/2009 4:48:06 PM
Message:
Rob,
I thank you for your answer. I have apologized for the second post and I ask that you do not offend me because others are asking for a more in-depth answer to my original question. I have not posted anything, except my second posting restating my question, to imply that I pressed for anything more than what you have answered.
I do understand economics but not the government spending or projections based on the money that is not being recieved. I think the rebate checks really could have been invested toward the future but what is done is done.
Name: Old Timer
Email:
Date: 9/30/2009 4:27:24 PM
Message:
I don't know, Carter was bad, but what about Hoover? He sucked too. And I'm no fan of that fat bastard Grover Cleveland, either. Why, back in my day ....
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 9/30/2009 4:22:19 PM
Message:
Was it Hilary who wanted to call Illegal Aliens Undocumented Visitors! Still laugh at that term.
Name: Al
Email: arothejr@etcmail.com
Date: 9/30/2009 4:18:29 PM
Message:
Sorry Rant, but your 400% profit increase numbers for health care insurance companies came from one of the many companies under the ACORN umbrella. You know that company willing to help pimps bring in under age hookers to staff a brothel and defraud the IRS to boot!
ACORN who falsified voter registrations all across the country. ACORN, who OBAMA informed at a meeting would be helping set the agenda for the country.
Last week I increased my donation to the Shriner standing in the road down in Tate by 1.000 percent! Yes, I threw in five dollar bill rather than the two quarters I had in my pocket my previous encounter at that intersection.
Better be careful, Rant, it is very easy manipulate statistics to say almost anything you want. You have to look at the source and study the math.
Name: Al
Email: arothejr@etcmail
Date: 9/30/2009 3:32:05 PM
Message:
Pinto,
"President Bush and his congressional allies tried but failed to ram a Social Security privatization bill through the Congress last year. The plan (H.R. 3304) would have taken funds from the Social Security trust fund to pay for private accounts" If you want to read the entire article from the UNION website, try this: http://www.afscme.org/legislation-politics/1491.cfm
Name: William Padgett
Email:
Date: 9/30/2009 3:13:38 PM
Message:
Sorry Rob.
This board must not be set up for immediate response and I sent the second post before your response appeared. Sorry and have a great day.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/30/2009 1:57:38 PM
Message:
Bozo...well damn you accidently got one right...Obama is bad news. As far as Bush goes, nothing...but nothing even comes close to Jimmy Carter as the worst President this country has ever had. Carter is about the dumbest excuse for a president anyone could ask for. I still recall the mess and the interest rates from his rule.
Name: dazed and confused
Email: namvet
Date: 9/30/2009 1:54:31 PM
Message:
great point! - better yet we should send mexico a bill for all the crap the illegals stir up over here, from crime to medical bills, maybe that would give mexico an incentive to stop the coyotes themselves??? just a thought.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/30/2009 1:26:20 PM
Message:
To anyone who still thinks William Padgett still deserves any more press regarding his request for me to answer his question, please note that I have answered it twice. If this person is not satisfied with my take on things, he can simply state his thoughts or ignore what I submitted. I do not exist to perform for this person's pleasure.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/30/2009 1:22:01 PM
Message:
Oh my God, Pinto this is getting soooo old. I guess we have to argue about what Bush did 5 years ago, at this exact time, while we have so much more important and life-altering legislation being rammed through committee? Read this, then find your own damn 5 year old failed legislation document number. Then come back and stammer on aand on and on about former president Bush. I have better things to worry about.
Bush Backs Social Security Bill Without Accounts
Posted on: Tuesday, 21 June 2005, 15:00 CDT
WASHINGTON -- President Bush encouraged a Republican senator on Tuesday to offer Social Security legislation that would not include private investment accounts. The White House said the president still was committed to allowing workers to invest part of their Social Security taxes.
Bush's nod to Utah Sen. Bob Bennett's plan comes as public polls show that most Americans do not support the president's handling of the Social Security issue. Congress has been deadlocked on it.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/30/2009 12:54:25 PM
Message:
Jeep: well said, sister! You are absolutely right on the money.
It looks as though Harry Reid is going to use parliamentiary procedure and merge the two senate health care bills, then ride the combo bill on the House "no bonus for Tarp-funded banks" bill... that has nothing to do with health care. In this manner, the far left democrats (Obama's people) will have a partisan bill to Obama (without repub or moderate dem participation) by next Thursday. Is this really how we want our government to work? I can't wait for the political fallout on this, and the lawsuits that are coming to challenge the constitutional authority.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 9/30/2009 12:27:22 PM
Message:
still, no one has shown me a SS bill that Bush supported, that contained the private accounts he wanted. because there was none. at least the democrats today have submitted a bill with the "public option," Robot's simple-minded analogy to the "private accoungts." and Robot still has not answeredd William Padgett's very poignant question. if I am a hypocrite, then Robot invented the word. besides I don't think I am a hypocrite, I have never praised the work of obama, who has proven to be a lot more right wing than he promised during the campaign - promises of what Robot and NonVet would call "socialism" that were, and still are, supported by the majority of american people.
NonVet - sorry to insult your hero, fellow non-vet and [deleted] buddy the bush. ok, fine. you can stop crying. obama sucks too. I agree. I have always said that. but that doesn't take away from the fact that bush was probably the worst president in our country's history.
and most republicans, I have to admit, are very motivated when it comes to impelementing their plans to consolidate wealth in their hands - or in Robot's easily manipulated mind to save the world. george bush, who couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag, is an excepetion. dick cheney, andy card, and jim baker were the driving force behind all of bush's decisions and let's face it - these folks simpley weren't into the whole SS reform thing as much as bush was, and therefore bush the [deleted] got no help. therefore, we got a lot of words but no action...
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/30/2009 11:57:09 AM
Message:
Everyone talks about "illegals" getting health care etc. Will "illegals" get health care? Yes they will, no they won't. "Illegals" can't be turned down...blah blah.
We are Talking About "ILLEGALS." What part of "ILLEGAL" don't they understand. Arrest them and send them packing and forget what they will or won't get. Unless, "illegal" means nothing at all then maybe laws are just for fun and feel good. Maybe it feels good to see an "ILLEGAL" get rights and services that we pay for? I would feel good if I saw them arrested and sent home.
"Legals," they can stay and contribute like everyone else.
Name: Rob
Email: Navy1
Date: 9/30/2009 9:41:16 AM
Message:
To back up NamVet's statement, Obama is on record saying he will wait until next year to confront the SS crisis.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/30/2009 9:39:42 AM
Message:
William Padgett,
I did answer your question. Please read my response on the board.
As far as how the CBO comes to their projections, if I was an expert on that my life would be a lot different right now. I assume SS solvency cycles through the graph driven by number of Americans paying into the system at any given time v. the number drawing payments. Make sense? 2 years ago, millions and millions more people than today were working. I would propose that a large relative percentage of undocumented workers are STILL working, therefore not contributing, while more people are forced into retirement due to unemployement.
Deficits and surpluses ALWAYS lag actual present day circumstances. The two lines on the graph are out of phase with each other as the funding for SS reacts AFTER and TO the actuals.
Name: jeep
Email: jeep@yahoo
Date: 9/30/2009 9:39:18 AM
Message:
NamVet...Obama is not going to do anything about SS. He won't be president in 2037 when all the funds are gone so what does he care. Instead he would like to "reform" healthcare to take care of the 15% of the population that does not have healthcare. That makes sense doesn't it. Worry about the 15% without healthcare(even though our hospitals will still treat these people)rather than majority of the US popualtion that will be affected by SS.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/30/2009 9:30:34 AM
Message:
Pinto, I'm not going to do your homework for you anymore. Look it up yourself. Truth is, nobody knows what to do with SS. It was a New Deal program that was unsustainable into the future. I thought privatizing the program was a good idea, but in the end it would have been shaky since the government is now on a mission to take over all of industry. There has to be a level of risk in the market in order to be successful and generate profit, and ROI. Since you despise free enterprise and capitalism, there is no sense in discussing the truth about how a market economy works.
I have discussed the SS plan set forth by Bush. I even discussed Bennet's SS bill, and further I discussed how it didn't contain Bush's plan for private accounts, as the democrats would not support it. It is NO DIFFERENT from the "health bill without the public option" disagreement within the democratic party today. You cannot discredit Bush for SS reform without discrediting Obama for health care. But in your case, of course, from your perch "Bush bad, Obama gooood". Do you not see the hypocracy in your position? The clouds in your logic? Of course you don't.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/30/2009 8:59:46 AM
Message:
"Bush's lack of ability to do anything about SS shows a lack of leadership, and a show of extreme weakness on his and the GOP's part.."
So tell me, what is the Obama and the Dems going to do about Social Security and when? Where will Obama get the money to fix social security? How soon can we count on this "leadership" by Obama to take place?
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/30/2009 8:45:41 AM
Message:
Addendum to Acorn post:
In 2008 before the election, Obama made statements that he wanted an investigation performed on Acorn (by the same folks investigating Bush's lawyer firings.
"Barack Obama has requested that everything be turned over to a special prosecutor. Not just any special prosecutor either. Obama wants all of the ACORN investigations lumped into the ongoing, Democrat-launched probe into Justice Dept. attorney firings in the Bush Administration."
What happened to that? The lawyers were fired because they refused to investigate Acorn. The democrats said that these were political firings. Democrats stifled any investigation into Acorn's voter fraud. Obama went ahead and paid Acorn $800,000 for its services. AND Barack Obama promised ACORN in 2007 that he would make their representatives part of his transition team to the Presidency and from there they would together map the "change" they intend to bring posthaste.
However, before the election, A lifelong Democrat from D.C., Dr. Lynette Long, spent the previous 6 months investigating and tallying results from the Democratic Party nominating contests. Her conclusion:
"As I write this, the Democratic Party is poised to formally nominate Barack Obama as its candidate for President of the United States.
"It's the triumph of fraud.
"I've spent the past two months immersed in data from the 2008 Democratic caucuses. After studying the procedures and results from all fourteen caucus states, interviewing dozens of witnesses, and reviewing hundreds of personal stories, my conclusion is that the Obama campaign willfully and intentionally defrauded the American public by systematically undermining the caucus process."
Welcome to the Progressive revolution. I think it is utterly appropriate to qoute Saul Alinski here, mentor to Hillary and Obama and catalyst of the modern progressive radical movement:
"A People's Organization is dedicated to an eternal war...A war is not an intellectual debate, and in the war against social evils there are no rules of fair play." -Saul Alinsky; Reveille for Radicals; p. 133
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/30/2009 8:16:54 AM
Message:
Acorn, as it has been described by some in this forum as a good and legally operating group and merely the subject of a right-wing smear campaigns, is officially under investigation in Nevada for breaking voter registration laws.
"when investigators from Nevada Secretary of State Ross Miller's office raided the ACORN Las Vegas office, Ross says they found a paper trail that implicated the ACORN organization itself.
"We came across policy manuals that outline their policy of creating a quota system, which is against the law," Miller told FOX News in an interview. "This, in fact, was something that was widespread and something the organization itself knew about, and it's important to hold the organization criminally accountable as opposed to the individual field directors."
"By filing these charges we are sending a clear message we are not going to tolerate these kinds of activities. We have seen voter registration abuse before and we are holding these people accountable."
ACORN lawyer Lisa Rasmussen told FOX News that the Nevada prosecution is "selective and has unfairly targeted ACORN." She claims the case violates the right to petition to gather voters.
At the preliminary hearing Tuesday, prosecutors and defense lawyers sparred over the arcane regulations of voter registration. But the highlight of the proceedings was the testimony of Christopher Edwards, the 33-year-old former ACORN field director who has cut a deal with prosecutors to testify against the group.
Edwards has begun to provide a view inside ACORN's operations, telling investigators about the Blackjack program in the Las Vegas office, which allegedly submitted the names of the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys as new voters.
As usual, Acorn's stance is that they are the innocent victims here.
"Remember clearly that for the public to have faith in the government, they first have to have faith in the process that elected the government" -R. Doug Lewis, executive director, the Election Center
Name: dazed and confused
Email: monsterquest
Date: 9/29/2009 8:13:28 PM
Message:
it was big enough to keep my A%% out of the water in that area.... davys jones locker, now that would be interesting for sure!
ps by the way they have super sized starfish in the anartic ocean, so much oxygen in the ocean up there, it seems to be breeding giagantic everything! Dinosaurs here we come LOL
Name: dazed and confused
Email: pinto bean
Date: 9/29/2009 8:07:24 PM
Message:
Listen, I am not a politcally correct most of the time, but did we or did we not, have an influx of illegals scrambling over the Rio Grande' when our lovely , adulterous Clinton was in office, lets say opening the gates, pouring our American jobs in manufacturing over into to Mexico??? Wait, was the NAFTA????? Seems to me the next Prez... tried to at least put a wall and some sort of security in to place...... ( of course after the fact of the national disaster 9-11)?????
Name: William Padgett
Email:
Date: 9/29/2009 7:48:50 PM
Message:
Rob,
I ask again since I didn't get an answer the first time.
Why did Pres. Bush issue the rebate checks years ago if he knew? He could have placed that money into SS as a "fallback" to the future.
Just one question about the forcast. If there are so many not working (and hense not paying into SS) and many more reaching retirement age, then how will there be a surplus in the coming years?
Never can figure out the way government works but if I'm not mistaken... the tax money collected now is the money used later to pay for SS.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/29/2009 5:55:42 PM
Message:
William Padgett,
Yes, Bush knew of the SS problem. Why did he authorize "rebate" checks? An attempt to get spending boosted. I think it was a bad idea, just as cash for clunkers is. But I will bet you a dollar that everyone who disagreed with the program cashed their check. The government does not spend its way to a blooming economy. Government spending does nothing but increase our debt anymore.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/29/2009 4:50:29 PM
Message:
Let me make clear that I'm not bashing social security. It's there, since FDR. We pay in, and cash out. Problem is it has become a ponzi scheme. We will be paying for someone else to cash out. And I agree with the Marine in that, knowing Obama has no desire to win a war he once demanded we direct all of our forces to-- he should either stop screwing around with us and his generals and get it done with shock and awe or bring our boys home immediately. Inaction and talk of victory being "too strong of a word" is only killing more of our servicemembers. He must be the commander in chief for a change and decide what side of the fence he sits on.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 9/29/2009 4:43:36 PM
Message:
plus, one thing you forgot to mention about bennett's SS idea is that it wasn't supported by the bush either. he managed to talk about a bill that no one supported because it was stupid. it was a red herring intended to call out anyone who had sense. I remember the whole SS charade very well, it was a hilarious farce in which it seemed the Republicans intentionally tried to show off their incompetence.
also, the GOP was talking about healthcare reform back then too, but the bush didnt want to talk about it. now that an uppity inexperienced black man is in office, the GOP doesn't want to help the american people. go figure.
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 9/29/2009 4:10:52 PM
Message:
just because you or bill bennett say there was a bill does not mean there was one, as we already know that everything that Robot says is wrong. bennest said he would introduce a bill but he never did. again, please show me the plan the bush supported, referred to, ignored, etc., or at least cut and paste one line from it. there was none. republicans just love to blame their problems on everyone except themselves.
its just like how the Democrats kept complaining about the Bush lack-of-plan in Iraq. They never introduced a counter-plan, so nobody including the "liberal media" took them seriously...
Name: Rant Casey
Email: chuck@Palahniuk.com
Date: 9/29/2009 4:08:57 PM
Message:
It is indeed heartening to see the people fighting to stop any healthcare reform. I myself have become quite comfortable thanks to the status quo with healthcare. Do you realize that insurance companies profits have risen more than 400 percent in the last five years -- making me a man of means without lifting a finger other than to invest in the companies. So to all you tea members, death panellers I thank you for preserving my way of life as "poor people are what makes me sick" and I'm quite happy to benefit off your futile attempts to stop anyone from helping the poor and middle class get better (as in cheaper coverage). Next if we can only get rid of social security entirely and put that money back into the investment banks and Wall Street.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/29/2009 3:47:59 PM
Message:
Well, Pinto. Up to your old tricks again. I would counter your assertions by saying ANYONE who fails to enact a program you choose as your basis for argument lacks leadership in your view. In the case of Bush's SS reform plan, almost no democrat supported it and it helped them that he was an unpopular president. By the way, Bush was against TARP as well, but fell headlong into that mess. The proposal was not favored in polls, which gave ground as well.
Regardless of your perception of Bush's leadership skills, there was a proposal. WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY back in 2005. Before any of us were born, apparently. Or is it selective memory?
If the point here is priorities, we can certainly go there too. Health care reform. Polls also reflect an ever-growing disapproval of government being involved in the fashion reflected by these bills. The public option just failed a finance committee vote. The priority is the economy!
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/29/2009 2:59:08 PM
Message:
Bush had considerable trouble getting the democrats to even discuss his plan for SS reform! Since there was no way the democrats would sign off on privatizing SS funds, he partnered with Utah sen. Bob Bennett's plan which had how much demo support? YOu guessed it. It went nowhere.
"I've decided that the Democrats have made it clear that they will not back personal accounts," Bennett said outside the White House. "And in response to the president's position that let's try to get something done, I will be proposing a bill that does not include personal accounts."
Bennett said some Democrats have told him privately that they would support such a bill, but he is not sure how many will be on board publicly now that he's introducing the legislation. He said he is looking for Democrats to co-sponsor the bill, but he didn't have any to announce Tuesday.
"Name just one bill"? The bill is explained above. It suffered a democrat-induced death in 2005. It was designed specifically to prevent SS deficit payouts.
Name: Marine
Email: marine1
Date: 9/29/2009 2:46:50 PM
Message:
Pinto, I can show you a bill...Bush was all for privatization of S.S.. Also, the cost of living index can in fact be stagnant in 2010, but who, other than ' the chosen one' can predict 2011? Social Securiy is solvent until 2037 with trillions in the bank. This country is and has always been notorious for waiting until a direct crisis hits before doing anything about it. Yes, that's Bush included. Nobody could ever convince me that Obee isn't using some of those funds to help pay for his healthcare bill that can wait until this economy gains some traction. And NO, the healthcare issue is NOT bringing down this economy. Haphazard spending is. Everyone who lives inner city is for this bill..Go figure. Funding this war that we'll never win and is much more rediculous than this stupid Afghan war is a major contributor as well. But being as Obee said it's right to do, during his campaign, here we are. I also disagree with McCain. The only surge we should be for is the one that heads our troops home.
Name: William Padgett
Email:
Date: 9/29/2009 2:41:50 PM
Message:
Rob,
Pres. Bush was upto speed on this shortfall?
Why did he issue the rebate checks? We could have placed that money into SS as a "fallback" to the future. Just one question about the forcast. If there are so many not working (and hense not paying into SS) and many more reaching retirement age, then how will there be a surplus? Never can figure out the way government works!
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 9/29/2009 2:04:12 PM
Message:
More diplays of ineptitude, laziness, falsification, etc. from Robot...Bush's lack of ability to do anything about SS shows a lack of leadership, and a show of extreme weakness on his and the GOP's part. The "liberal media let the Democrats" convince the people that it wasn't a problem? that is a copout - a statement that could only be uttered by a weakling, and someone who can't take responsibility for his own actions. but we already knew that about you Robot. show me one bill - just one - that the GOP introduced when they tried to convince the american people to give all their money to the party's donors as a way to "reform" SS. just one bill. maybe if they had written a bill and put it down on the floor of congress, the american people would have taken the GOP a little more seriously. you gotta try harder than just bitch and moan to get your agenda passed. you gotta back up your words with action. I am tired of all you republican mouthpieces thinking you are entitled to whatever you want without having to work for it, and then crying even more when no one believes your lies. stick to gossiping behind people's backs - that's the only thing you're good at...
Name: Marine
Email: marine1
Date: 9/29/2009 2:01:42 PM
Message:
Heroics! Be a hero at any cost, literally. Speak with smooooth rythm, convince all that everything's Bush's fault, side with people you wouldn't pee on if they were on fire. Take the country down with fiscal immaturity. Take advice from one who is desperatly seeking wisdom, (Biden). Change we can believe in. 85% of the insured in this country are satisfied with their insurance. Even if healthcare is 'broken', due to some not having insurance, why now? Why go down this expensive path that we cannot afford now. We all know that health insurance isn't the cause. Why now? Why did he bail out Wall Street only to watch the failure. Why did he bail out and now own much of the auto industry, which is still failing? If that bailout worked, why are so many thousands of auto workers now on welfare? Why are there so many earmarks and so much pork being funded? Why is the unemployment rate still rising daily, way beyond O'bees promises? Why does Obee fumble worse than a 4th grader when asked how the stimulus will be paid? Please don't look up some democratic rag to answer, it makes you look foolish. Just answer, why? I already know the reason why..The wrong, inexperienced person resides at 1600 Pennsylvania.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/29/2009 12:39:25 PM
Message:
Regarding social security: the facts: (CBO)
The Congressional Budget Office is projecting that Social Security will pay out more in benefits than it collects in taxes next year and in 2011, a first since the early 1980s, when Congress last overhauled Social Security. Since the CBO projection, this deficit has occurred faster than originally thought.
Social Security is projected to start generating surpluses again in 2012 before permanently returning to deficits in 2016 unless Congress acts again to shore up the program. Without a new fix, the $2.5 trillion in Social Security's trust funds will be exhausted in 2037.
Where did President Bush stand?
In 2005, President Bush wanted to overhaul Social Security to prevent this from happening, and that Democrats in Congress aided and abetted by the liberal media convinced the American people that this wasn't a serious problem that needed to be addressed yet. None other than Max Baucus led the fight against the Bush plan.
So here we are in 2009, SS is in deficit mode, amnesty is coming, health care, cap and trade, trillion dollar deficits, massive unemployment rate, pick your poison. What says El Presidente?
“President Barack Obama has said he would like to tackle Social Security next year.”
Hmmm. Like the Acorn scandal, SS is not that big a deal right now. So the crisis that Bush and the Republicans predicted is now here, and not only doesn't the “mainstream media” mention that, it also didn't express any shock whatsoever that Obama isn't focusing on this now. But Chicago needs the Olympics, so he immediately hops on AF1 to Copenhagen. Priorities, anyone?
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/29/2009 10:19:23 AM
Message:
NamVet,
I don't think it is an accident that Obama has crafted things making a health care plan effective in 2013. That happens to be after the 2010 election, and after he assumes he will be re-elected for a second term. 56% of Americans do not want government health care, and that number increases daily. Couple that with illegals granted access to such a plan, and as Al pointed out 10-20 million brand new "amnestied" immigrants, and POW we have a new world order. Then add in cap and trade, unemployment, and the highest social spending in history (more than the Iraq and Afgan. war cost COMBINED)and a new alliance with our friendly 3rd world socialist dictators... I can see doom for our country in the headlights.
Luckily we still have the right to vote in November, stand up to congress, and vote again in 2012.
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/29/2009 9:30:05 AM
Message:
Yep, and Chicago certainly deserves the Olympics. Perhaps Oprah, Obama, Rod Blagoyovich and Roland Burris should stick to cleaning up Chicago and stay out of the Olymipcs, and government altogether.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/video_derrion_albert
Name: Monster Quest
Email:
Date: 9/29/2009 9:25:16 AM
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Sweet mercy, D&C - that's more like it! A giant squid, eh? Big enough to drag a ship down to Davy Jones locker?
Name: Rob
Email: robnavy1@yahoo.com
Date: 9/29/2009 9:23:05 AM
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And where is the president? He's going to Denmark with Oprah to try to get the Olympics in Chicago. Really?
Name: Cursing Mommy
Email: ph**U.com
Date: 9/29/2009 9:00:35 AM
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Alright [deleted] I'm going to treat you like I treat my old g-d kids sometimes. For the Marble Festival weekend, I'm calling for an end of all hostilities on this site starting Thursday. There will be hundreds of thousands (I know that is f-ing exaggerating but it's what the chamber always says) visitors to this community to help us worship the marble that gives Pickens its special powers. And I for one, don't want us to look like a bunch of f-ing no class hillbillies infighting in the living room on this message board. So as I tell my kindergartener many days before dropping him off at school -- if can't say something nice about someone shut your f-ing mouth until they are out of earshot.
Name: NamVet
Email:
Date: 9/29/2009 7:14:57 AM
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Jeep, you are right on. Social Security is broke, FDIC is broke and what does congress do? Congress is trying to spend more money on health care. Over a trillion dollars in health care and they ignore what we already have that is broken. Obama, he is into so many things he don't even know....heck he's pitchin the olympics while ignoring Afganistan and our troops there and wishing he didn't have to deal with Iran. In short, Obama is spread to thin and hasn't a clue. We are in serious trouble and the house of cards is about to fall thanks to the mess Obama has us in. All we need now is another social program to spend money on or another Tax idea to keep the economy down.
Name: dazed and conffusedd
Email: monsterquest
Date: 9/28/2009 9:38:28 PM
Message:
well forget about frankenfish, and large alligators and the such, they just found a giant squid a couple days ago off the coast of good ol baton rouge...
Name: pinto colvig
Email: not@home
Date: 9/28/2009 6:28:00 PM
Message:
Al!!! good to see you again. it is true, your wisdom keeps this place saner. I think the number of illegals is up to about 300 million now.
jeep - its because the bush, with his stellar leadership capabilities, could have spurred congress into passing social security reform during the eight years he was in office. instead, he just talked about how great ss reform would be, and insulted everyone who supports the current ss system.
Name: Marine
Email: marine1
Date: 9/28/2009 5:53:49 PM
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Jeep...it's because of all the retirees that can't wait for the long retirement due to the 9.5 unemployment rate that wasn't supposed to exceed 8.5 according to O'bee.
Name: dazed and confffuuused
Email: pinto bean
Date: 9/28/2009 5:04:18 PM
Message:
What agenda would that be dare I ask? Do you not remember me raising HOLY HADES about all the illegals(now legals from birth of said child) sum BS for sure... at my childs pediatricians, handing them some medicaid card at the front window, ( calling it their insurance plan??)....
When I get to pay out the A$$ for some insurance and a copay etc...etc... etc.... - Don't think for a second I think we should continue this crap. IT makes me livid to know that I as an American tax paying citizen get to pay taxes in our 'private' health plan for broken peckers in the ER to the likes of illegals with snot nosed kids. The only agenda i really have at this point is that EVERYONE that is legal, law abiding citizen should be able to have some sort of affordable health care. It just can't be done to everyones liking period.
I do know that my healthcare plan is a pain is my A** everymonth i mail off our checks, but I have to say that we have recieved quality healthcare when we needed it- exceptions of the illegals backing up the dang pediatricians office and causing our appts. to run late as crap!
Name: dazed and confused
Email: rob
Date: 9/28/2009 4:54:31 PM
Message:
thanks will check them out!
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